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Where SHOULD LeBron Play in 2018-2019?

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Where Should LeBron Play in 2018-2019?

  • Cleveland

    Votes: 84 53.2%

  • Houston

    Votes: 11 7.0%

  • Los Angeles Lakers

    Votes: 3 1.9%

  • Philadelphia

    Votes: 48 30.4%

  • Miami

    Votes: 0 0.0%

  • San Antonio

    Votes: 5 3.2%

  • Milwaukee

    Votes: 1 0.6%

  • New York

    Votes: 1 0.6%

  • Other

    Votes: 5 3.2%
  • Total voters
    158
The Human Q-Tip said:
No offense, but why I should I give a fuck where LBJ plays if it isn't in Cleveland?

This is Real Cavs Fans, not Real LeBron Knob Gobblers.
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He's the greatest Cavalier of all-time, the greatest Cleveland athlete of all-time, and could end up owning the franchise one day. His next move will also impact his legacy and his GOAT argument.
 
Steve_424 said:
He's the greatest Cavalier of all-time, the greatest Cleveland athlete of all-time, and could end up owning the franchise one day. His next move will also impact his legacy and his GOAT argument.
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So...i'm supposed to hope that if he leaves, he wins a championship for some other team?

Nope.
 
Really depends on what the end game is ? (And I apologize if this is long winded)

See the rings right now don’t really matter at all in my opinion because the man has lost 5 NBA finals (and he has a few rings— it’s not like Jerry West with 1) Granted I could say Magic Johnson’s 5 rings in 9 finals is pretty close to Jordan and he lost 4. On one hand I rather win 6 but I can see the case for wanting to compete for 9.

But to me it doesn’t matter if LeBron wins 6 rings in 11 tries. That could only put him on that Magic level in that case (in terms of being a winner, not greatest ever)

In my opinion what separates Jordan in terms of legacy is not so much 6/6 in the finals — it’s all the greats of his era that he prevented from winning titles and nobody ever brings that up.

He prevented at some point from winning it all:
Ewing
Miller
Shaq (got his when Jordan was retired)
Penny
Zo (got 1 at the end of his career)
Tim Hardaway

That’s just guys in the east. What about actually in the finals ?

Magic (from winning his 6th)
Drexler (snuck his in when MJ was playing baseball and could debate if Olajuwon would have ever gotten one if MJ didn’t ?? I’ll give Hakeem the benefit of the doubt)
Barkley
Kevin Johnson
Kemp
Payton
Malone
Stockton

Just think how different those legacies would be if some of those guys had just 1 ring to put on their finger (Ewing/Miller/Malone/Stockton/Barkley)

Like MJ completely altered legacies. Whereas LeBron has sometimes underwhelmed when he was suppose to rise (09,10,11)

He couldn’t prevent guys like Garnett, Allen, Pierce from getting 1.. Needed a super team to take out his competition eventually..

He helped Kidd and Nowitzki enhance their legacies. Now he did prevent Westbrook, Harden and at the time Durant from getting one but they were awfully green at that point— did prevent Duncan from getting a 6th And we all know the stuff with the Warriors ..

My point in all of this is that if LeBron’s end game is to be the greatest ever it’s not about the rings at this point (tho it will help) he’s simply gonna have to carve that path out a different way from Jordan cause he’s already almost lost as many as Jordan won..

Where LeBron could carve out his path is what he did with Cavs and to do the same in New York with the Knicks...

If LeBron lead the New York Knicks to just 1 nba title he would be viewed as the greatest ever... You take the Cavs and Knicks to a championship (coupled with all the other accomplishments on the resume) and he surpasses Jordan...

Winning just another ring or 2 with the Rockets or Lakers or Sixers is great and all— but it’s jusy another ring... None would be as impressive as winning 1 with the Knicks...

So if it’s not the Cavs... He should try to recruit and do whatever it takes to make the NY Knicks the favorites... Would be legendary...
 
As for all those times he got to the Finals and lost... atleast he got there. It's almost like in 2007 he would have been better off if the Cavs would have lost to Detroit. After his legendary Game 5, if the Cavs drop the next 2, looking back from 2018, that would have helped his legacy in a weird way. And it shouldn't be like that. Getting to the Finals year after year after year is no easy task, and I feel it shouldn't be such a black mark on his resume if he loses some.
 
JMoneyYourHoney said:
He needed a superteam to beat a superteam, got it.
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It certainly helped his cause..

I was certainly more disappointed in 2010 than 2008 against them...Was satisfying watching Kobe slay that beast tho..
 
I still say Lakers...Ingram, Kouzma, and Lonzo as a nice understudy. And wait for it,DURANT!
 
If Zinger weren't coming off an acl tear, maybe he considers the Knicks.

But that ain't happening. Plus, Wade already more or less confirmed the Knicks have no shot.
 
Cavs Need To Win said:
As for all those times he got to the Finals and lost... atleast he got there. It's almost like in 2007 he would have been better off if the Cavs would have lost to Detroit. After his legendary Game 5, if the Cavs drop the next 2, looking back from 2018, that would have helped his legacy in a weird way. And it shouldn't be like that. Getting to the Finals year after year after year is no easy task, and I feel it shouldn't be such a black mark on his resume if he loses some.
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LeBron even came out and said last year he didn’t know if he would prefer not to make the finals or make it and lose ?

I agree it means something— but even he views it a certain way.
 
The Human Q-Tip said:
So...i'm supposed to hope that if he leaves, he wins a championship for some other team?

Nope.
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You're not supposed to do anything. But let's not act like he's a guy that's only here for a year or two before moving on. It'd be pretty cool to be able to say the greatest Cavalier of all-time is also the greatest player of all-time.
 
LeBron should play to a team where he will not be needed to play 40 minutes to win games, to a team that will still win even he missed games, to a team where the coach will be the leader.
I say San Antonio Spurs and Boston Celtics.
 
Steve_424 said:
You're not supposed to do anything. But let's not act like he's a guy that's only here for a year or two before moving on. It'd be pretty cool to be able to say the greatest Cavalier of all-time is also the greatest player of all-time.
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You can say that right now if you wish. I don't see what that has to do with where he plays. Maybe there are some other fans or media for whom that matters, but why should we give two shits about what they think?
 
From the standpoint of pure collective talent...I'd like to see Bron on Philly, Boston or Houston. In that order.
Philly: Simmons, Redick, Beal, Bron, Embiid. (If not Beal they should go for Mccollum)
Boston: Kyrie, Hayward, Tatum, Bron, Horford (Trade Horford if anyone for cap)
Houston: CP3, Harden, Bron, Ariza, Capela

Steve_424 said:
You're not supposed to do anything. But let's not act like he's a guy that's only here for a year or two before moving on. It'd be pretty cool to be able to say the greatest Cavalier of all-time is also the greatest player of all-time.
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Thats already true in my mind. When was the last time Jordan came back from 3-1 and beat a 73 win team in a series? Never.
The guy in my avatar didnt even help. You can argue semantics but my mind is set.

If Bron does leave. I hope its Philly. Embiid is fun to watch.
 
PIP said:
Really depends on what the end game is ? (And I apologize if this is long winded)

See the rings right now don’t really matter at all in my opinion because the man has lost 5 NBA finals (and he has a few rings— it’s not like Jerry West with 1) Granted I could say Magic Johnson’s 5 rings in 9 finals is pretty close to Jordan and he lost 4. On one hand I rather win 6 but I can see the case for wanting to compete for 9.

But to me it doesn’t matter if LeBron wins 6 rings in 11 tries. That could only put him on that Magic level in that case (in terms of being a winner, not greatest ever)

In my opinion what separates Jordan in terms of legacy is not so much 6/6 in the finals — it’s all the greats of his era that he prevented from winning titles and nobody ever brings that up.

He prevented at some point from winning it all:
Ewing
Miller
Shaq (got his when Jordan was retired)
Penny
Zo (got 1 at the end of his career)
Tim Hardaway

That’s just guys in the east. What about actually in the finals ?

Magic (from winning his 6th)
Drexler (snuck his in when MJ was playing baseball and could debate if Olajuwon would have ever gotten one if MJ didn’t ?? I’ll give Hakeem the benefit of the doubt)
Barkley
Kevin Johnson
Kemp
Payton
Malone
Stockton

Just think how different those legacies would be if some of those guys had just 1 ring to put on their finger (Ewing/Miller/Malone/Stockton/Barkley)

Like MJ completely altered legacies. Whereas LeBron has sometimes underwhelmed when he was suppose to rise (09,10,11)

He couldn’t prevent guys like Garnett, Allen, Pierce from getting 1.. Needed a super team to take out his competition eventually..

He helped Kidd and Nowitzki enhance their legacies. Now he did prevent Westbrook, Harden and at the time Durant from getting one but they were awfully green at that point— did prevent Duncan from getting a 6th And we all know the stuff with the Warriors ..

My point in all of this is that if LeBron’s end game is to be the greatest ever it’s not about the rings at this point (tho it will help) he’s simply gonna have to carve that path out a different way from Jordan cause he’s already almost lost as many as Jordan won..

Where LeBron could carve out his path is what he did with Cavs and to do the same in New York with the Knicks...

If LeBron lead the New York Knicks to just 1 nba title he would be viewed as the greatest ever... You take the Cavs and Knicks to a championship (coupled with all the other accomplishments on the resume) and he surpasses Jordan...

Winning just another ring or 2 with the Rockets or Lakers or Sixers is great and all— but it’s jusy another ring... None would be as impressive as winning 1 with the Knicks...

So if it’s not the Cavs... He should try to recruit and do whatever it takes to make the NY Knicks the favorites... Would be legendary...
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So if LeBron ends up winning 6 championships in 11 Finals appearances that's not as good as Jordan winning 6 championships in 6 appearances? Just not buying that. That would be FIVE more times LeBron advanced further than MJ did.

As far as prevented others from winning titles, guys like Tim Duncan, Kevin Durant, Steph Curry, Kevin Garnett, Ray Allen, and Paul Pierce have less rings because of LeBron, and Paul George, James Harden, Russell Westbrook, Carmelo Anthony, Jimmy Butler, Derrick Rose, and others have no rings because of LeBron.

He ended the mid-2000s Pistons run, the early 2010s Celtics run, and never let the Chicago Bulls, Toronto Raptors, Indiana Pacers, or Atlanta Hawks get to the Finals with teams that likely would have qualified without him blocking their path.

Heck - he forced his primary individual rival (KD) to join his primary team rival (Golden State) because they needed each other to get by him.
 
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