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Freddie Kitchens: vaguely employed

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What grade to you give the Browns for hiring Freddie Kitchens as their next Head Coach?

  • A+

    Votes: 38 20.8%

  • A

    Votes: 57 31.1%

  • A-

    Votes: 15 8.2%

  • B

    Votes: 18 9.8%

  • Less than that, but I'm also not fun at parties.

    Votes: 55 30.1%
  • Total voters
    183
col63onel said:
And all could probably lose by less than 4 tds to Tennessee and San Francisco
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I genuinely don't think the Bengals or Cardinals could, but we'll see soon enough.

The Browns will be favored in every game. Assuming they will always be playing like they did in SanFran or the first game of the season is an assumption too far for me.
 
Amherstcavsfan said:
I genuinely don't think the Bengals or Cardinals could, but we'll see soon enough.

The Browns will be favored in every game. Assuming they will always be playing like they did in SanFran or the first game of the season is an assumption too far for me.
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Agreed but Baker has the third worst QB rating in the NFL this season

Until he starts playing with any form of consistency it’s hard to pencil in any wins other than the Dolphins because they have a legitimate shot at being the worst team in NFL history

Bengals are fucking atrocious as well, but divisional games are weird and they should have aj Green back when we play them
 
Amherstcavsfan said:
2 of those teams are actively tanking, and the Broncos could soon join them.

I don't know what to tell you. The Browns absolutely crushed a bad team like the Jets, and they beat the breaks off of Baltimore in Baltimore. Just because the 49ers had 2 weeks to game plan a team coming cross country, whose weaknesses perfectly match your strengths on both sides of the ball is and should not be an indictment on the team.

The talent on the team, whether well coached or mentally checked in or not, will see them to at least 7 or 8 wins with comfortable ease.
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Honestly, that Jets game felt like a loss. No Darnold, second string QB gets hurt, third string QB comes out throwing darts, missing their best defensive player, etc.

We've only faced two top 20 scoring defenses (49ers and Titans) and got smoked by both teams.

Baker's leading the league in interceptions, tied for 6th in sacks, is third to last in rating among qualified players, and has a 1:2 TD:INT ratio. Only completing 55.9% of his passes right now, good for next-to-last in the league.

Play-calling, line play, and execution have been bad, but Baker hasn't helped at all. The big problem I see is we tend to shy away from the run game for whatever reason. Then if we get in a hole we're stuck trying to rely on Baker's arm when he's playing like one of the worst QB's at the moment. When you have that recipe, you can lose to anyone and everyone.
 
The Wizard of Moz said:
Agreed but Baker has the third worst QB rating in the NFL this season

Until he starts playing with any form of consistency it’s hard to pencil in any wins other than the Dolphins because they have a legitimate shot at being the worst team in NFL history

Bengals are fucking atrocious as well, but divisional games are weird and they should have aj Green back when we play them
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I'm assuming the Browns play a baseline, average game for them. If Baker doesn't improve or somehow gets worse, then we may as well tear it all down and start over again.
 
Amherstcavsfan said:
I genuinely don't think the Bengals or Cardinals could, but we'll see soon enough.

The Browns will be favored in every game. Assuming they will always be playing like they did in SanFran or the first game of the season is an assumption too far for me.
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I never said anything about the bengals.

The browns have looked like the team that lost to sf much more than the team that beat Baltimore.
 
Amherstcavsfan said:
I'm assuming the Browns play a baseline, average game for them. If Baker doesn't improve or somehow gets worse, then we may as well tear it all down and start over again.
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Browns pt differential over a full season equates to 5-6 wins. That’s their baseline.
 
col63onel said:
Browns pt differential over a full season equates to 5-6 wins. That’s their baseline.
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Sure, but I wouldn’t use that as an automatic benchmark, because our second half schedule is much, much, easier than the first half. Unless there are freak injuries or something, this team likely has 8 wins as its floor.
 
AZ_ said:
Youre the entirety of the Top 10 on this board.
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This coming from the guy who was quick to call me out for talking about the line in camp. Then posts an article stating the line in camp is where the issues began and calling it “a great breakdown”

Step back for a bit bud your Mayfield hate hard on schtick is getting old.
 
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