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Myles Garrett : NFL 2023 DPOY

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Mr. Orange said:
As I posted earlier today, when the Texan DL ripped of Richie Incognito's helmet and swung it at his head, he received two preseason games and one regular season game ban. And that was not nearly as provoked as this. Let's not act like this is unprecedented. Also reminds me of when Roger Clemens threw a bat at Mike Pizza in the World Series. There were the clown takes of "assault with a deadly weapon" at that time as well, and I bet most on this board had forgotten that happened until now.

The best case may be to get it to six games TOTAL, with no playoff or 2020 ban. Let's define the ban. Indefinite seems ridicuouls considering the Incognito case which was arguably worse.

Myles was likely in "fight or flight" instinct mode when Rudolph came charging at him. Almost was a mob mentality of Steelers at that point, and that is where you actually do have a self defense argument.
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I didn't forget about this but I did forget that it was a World Series game. Like the biggest game of their sport on the biggest stage with their biggest franchise in the first World Series of the 2000s. Name a bigger stage in Baseball.
 
Clemens threw the bat in his direction. He did not have intent to strike him nor did he.

Guys, you can't compare apples to oranges. You can't even compare penalties/incidents in the NFL 5 years ago to today's NFL.
 
Would've loved to have seen Artest throw some helmet in this.

 
Kbiz said:
Would've loved to have seen Artest throw some helmet in this.

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That was serious shit. Miles swinging a football helmet at an unprotected head is serious shit. (Interesting to note that was at the very end of game too). Hey, Stephen Jackson was still able to get a job at ESPN after. It won't be too terrible for Myles.

He'll be lucky to get off with 6 games.
 
BMAN said:
Hahaha holy shit. You should be ashamed of this awful comparison. Awful stuff.
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We had a guy in our group text doing the same thing. Compared us saying ‘Rudolph instigated and deserves some blame’ to saying ‘a rape victim deserves blame for wearing a short skirt’.

Frankly the rape and domestic violence comparisons are far more disgusting than suggesting Rudolph shoulders some blame in the incident.

I don’t know when it became so popular to be hysteric, hyperbolic, and over-dramatic to prove one’s inflated sense of morality, but I’m not here for it.
 
This devolved into Grumpy Old Men Part III pretty quickly. I just don't think it's a good look to defend Garrett going too far. Honestly, this is just my opinion, but I thought he was going in for more blows to Rudolph's head before DeCastro and Pouncey got into the scrum. It really could have been worse.

I do see why Garrett went too far, and I do think the NFL has taken "protect to QB" too far when a QB does basically the same thing Garrett did, but wasn't strong enough to succeed at it. But, Garrett is going to go through a lot of NFL mandated counseling before he gets close to the field again.
 
chrisrich91 said:
We had a guy in our group text doing the same thing. Compared us saying ‘Rudolph instigated and deserves some blame’ to saying ‘a rape victim deserves blame for wearing a short skirt’.
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Yeah, that is an absolutely awful comparison.

It was a fight. Garrett didn't start it, but he did escalate it in an inappropriate manner. He deserves punishment for that escalation, but the guy who started the fight obviously deserves a lesser punishment as well.
 
Notice how there is always some doucey instigator, both Rudolph and at the Palace, and when shit get real they call the cops (or refs in Mason’s case).

This isn’t a video game guys. It’s a real life jungle. You probably should stay in your lanes...
 
Mr. Orange said:
Notice how there is always some doucey instigator, both Rudolph and at the Palace, and when shit get real they call the cops (or refs in Mason’s case).

This isn’t a video game guys. It’s a real life jungle. You probably should stay in your lanes...
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There is an instigator, and then the guy that went out of line.

This is a football game and basketball game where guys get paid millions.

If you try to throw a punch at me...expect to get punched back. If you throw a beer at me from in the stands.....I laugh and your dumbass gets thrown out/barred.

You try to take my helmet off...maybe I try to take your helmet off. But that's where it ends.......
 
Randolphkeys said:
This devolved into Grumpy Old Men Part III pretty quickly. I just don't think it's a good look to defend Garrett going too far. Honestly, this is just my opinion, but I thought he was going in for more blows to Rudolph's head before DeCastro and Pouncey got into the scrum. It really could have been worse.

I do see why Garrett went too far, and I do think the NFL has taken "protect to QB" too far when a QB does basically the same thing Garrett did, but wasn't strong enough to succeed at it. But, Garrett is going to go through a lot of NFL mandated counseling before he gets close to the field again.
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I would agree with this. I think most, myself included are not justifying what Myles did, absolutely not, but rather rationalizing it. And that is the key difference. He definitely deserves a long suspension and 6 games doesn’t shock me.
 
BMAN said:
Hahaha holy shit. You should be ashamed of this awful comparison. Awful stuff.
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She kept coming at him, she deserved it. It was provoked.
 
The circle is now complete.

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Real Deal said:
Don't ever complain about trolling again
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Not like doing so ever stopped people before.

In any event, it’s remarkably stupid to cry self defense. Remarkably stupid to excuse his actions because of provocation.

Which is the point here.
 
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