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Odell Beckham Jr.,: Seatbelts Ruin Lives

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Will the Browns look better or worse after this?

  • Browns got back to being a top 10 offense

    Votes: 23 54.8%
  • Browns will recover a but but it's too little to late to make the playoffs

    Votes: 6 14.3%
  • Odell wasn't the problem but he wasn't the solution either

    Votes: 11 26.2%
  • The offense goes from bad to badderer, but the team stays the course

    Votes: 1 2.4%
  • Stefanski has to fall on his own sword

    Votes: 1 2.4%
  • Baker gets traded in the off season

    Votes: 0 0.0%

  • Total voters
    42
Not sure why Baker thinks he has a medical degree. I know he was at least on the 5 year plan but I dont think he got an md. He is very unlikable. I wonder what is his BMI is? Not sure I see a body that is doing a lot of working out.

This is honestly the worst post I've ever seen on this forum and I've been here a long time. Can we nominate it for some kind of award?
 
You are just one of the drama-filled antiOBJ people or something like that.

How folks shove their heads up their rectum to all the innuendo with this guy astounds me.

Loved obj and was a big advocate of bringing him here.

He’s been nowhere Near as advertised, maybe due to this injury, and now it’s clear the rumblings he wanted out are true.

Likely gone in the offseason at least from my point of view. Am I missing something? You think we made out on that trade? Or was I missing some sarcasm here.
 
Not trading him.

From they start of the off-season this team has done everything wrong, including not addressing OBJ's injury that also didn't allow him to integrate with the team.

You don't trade a talent like that without having got a full season out of him under proper conditions.

Considering the draft history of this team, they will never sniff the talent level of OBJ.

You give it a proper shot, doing it right, and if it doesn't work out then, trade him.

I've been waiting for this team to have a full season under proper conditions for twenty years.

It's yet to happen. Whether it's the talent level, the front office, the coaching staff, bad luck, or some combination of the four, it has yet to happen since this failed abortion of a franchise returned to the shores of Lake Erie in 1999.

I think they'll hang onto him, or demand a king's ransom in the offseason.

Given how absolutely toxic the locker room has (seemingly) become, I think Freddie being jettisoned is a foregone conclusion at this point. Even winning out and finishing above .500 likely wouldn't be enough to save his job. He has promoted a culture of toxicity, entitlement, and a shocking lack of discipline and accountability that has culminated in a team leading the league in penalties and ejections, and is without its best defensive player because of a suspension.

The medical stuff, the Jay Glazer report, and Baker publicly throwing this staff under the bus are just the latest in a long line of gaffes that would have already gotten most other coaches relieved for having a clear lack of control of their locker room.

You can see it in the body language of this team every single week. They want the season to be over at least as badly as these long suffering fans do. They won against a team actively trying to lose. They will get embarrassed against Baltimore, they will probably lose at Arizona, and the Bengals will somehow accidentally luck into a victory.

Just another lost season in two decades full of them, but this one is by far the most disappointing. I'm sorry for all the fans (like myself) that bought into the hype and finally allowed themselves to believe that better times had arrived.
 
Maybe he shouldn’t open his big fucking mouth then and create another controversy.

Or people can stop hanging onto every word these guys say looking for the next story. There's not a single player who will be traded between now and the end of the NFL season so why are players even fielding questions about trades? If players are out on the field on game day and in the actual game playing, then there shouldn't be any questions on if they can play or not? Are they healthy? Maybe. Are they playing? If the answer is yes they are playing then what exactly are people questioning?

What's the problem? Guys are playing hurt and they don't like it because they are competitive. Why are we answering questions about the offseason in week 14? It literally does not matter what answer any players gives you about the offseason in week 14. It has nothing to do with weeks 14, 15, 16, or 17. There's 3 games left. Play them. After that we can ask and answer whatever questions we want to. That's the whole point of the offseason.
 
Oh good, it’s the weekly episode of some dipshit thing that happened in a press conference that people will spend the week talking about instead of the fact that Baker put up another shitburger.
 
full season under proper conditions

I understand that this is a matter of degree, but literally no team has this, ever.

Pats? Spygate, Aaron Hernandez, Deflategate...

Steelers? Pig Pen suspension/often drama, AB84 drama, Mike Wallace drama - and those are just the beginning of it.

And that's the "stable" franchises.
 
I understand that this is a matter of degree, but literally no team has this, ever.

Pats? Spygate, Aaron Hernandez, Deflategate...

Steelers? Pig Pen suspension/often drama, AB84 drama, Mike Wallace drama - and those are just the beginning of it.

And that's the "stable" franchises.

I think this is what frustrates me overall with this narrative.

People were going on and on about how "classless" the Browns are, how the Steelers are all "class"/"no drama" and it's like...no.

It really feels like there's a set of rules for certain franchises, players and then another one for those that are "made men".

A lot of "freak" things keep happening to this franchise where as in other situations? They are handled quite a bit better by the NFL.

Ravens, Steelers, Patriots= Made Men.
Browns= Canon fodder until something pops up and they're in the club somehow.
 
I think this is what frustrates me overall with this narrative.

People were going on and on about how "classless" the Browns are, how the Steelers are all "class"/"no drama" and it's like...no.

It really feels like there's a set of rules for certain franchises, players and then another one for those that are "made men".

A lot of "freak" things keep happening to this franchise where as in other situations? They are handled quite a bit better by the NFL.

Ravens, Steelers, Patriots= Made Men.
Browns= Canon fodder until something pops up and they're in the club somehow.

It does suck, but remember that the Pats were considered a laughingstock most years until 2001. It IS possible to break through.
 
It does suck, but remember that the Pats were considered a laughingstock most years until 2001. It IS possible to break through.

Yeah that's my thought.
It'll happen by accident. Some fluke thing will go our way and it'll happen.
until then? That's what the Browns are for the NFL. "Cannon fodder".

I wonder if there's some "Skull and bones" level shit Jimmy has to do join btw. Kinda my theory.
 

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