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Big Three automakers are shutting down. No idea of the length.

ETA: Looks like it will be for twelve days (until March 30th) - https://www.foxnews.com/auto/coronavirus-closure-ford-suspending-production

Of course, I'm sure that's subject to change.

My pregnant wife, who is a CC employee, was denied testing by two locations (after being told to go to each by her CC doctor) by UH employees. She was then sent downtown to main campus and had to stand outside for 3 hours.

NorthCoastBias said:

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Twenty-one confirmed new cases in the span of 24 hours in Ohio.

David. said:

Why was H1n1 etc so different? How did we get through other ones without all this?

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I think it's large percentage that will need hospitalization. The flu hospitalization rate is around 1.5-2.0%. The Coronavirus has been around 20%.

They also know how to treat the flu and seasonal illness. There isn't enough data to tell what is the appropriate way to treat Coronavirus. That is why it's important to flatten the curve. Not only so that the hospitals won't get over run but so the researchers can conduct clinical trials. They have identified 50 or so drugs that they want to test. It needs to be fairly controlled so the data comes out to which work the most effectively. You need a wide array of patients, not just the most sick. Once people are in a life or death situation, they will try anything to save them and if they take multiple drugs, it becomes harder to figure out which worked.

Researchers need the capacity to run alot of tests and ability to have hospital staff support their clinical trials. If a hospital is overrun those resources need to go to saving people's lives.

There will be alot of off label trials of current drugs. Basically drugs that are already FDA approved and using them "off label" which is using them for another purpose. Off label use is legal but without proper data, it's just a doctor's feeling that it works better than another drugs.

All this is why we need to flatten the curve. The drugs won't just save the critically ill, they can find ones that shorten the contagious period of the virus so it slows down the spread. Basically a vaccine is a long term solution to stop people from getting sick but finding ways to treat the virus could make it so we can go back to normal life. Early testing and treatment might end up the solution. It could just push Coronavirus down to the normal flu range of infection, hospitalization, and mortality.

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The Human Q-Tip said:

Unless Russia is shutting down the internet, it would seem that reports of mass infection/illness would leak out. Maybe it has, but I haven't seen anything. But I could see a pretty good argument that a country as turned in on itself as Russia is -- comparatively speaking -- may actually be doing pretty well. Russia is far away from both Italy and from the population centers in China from which this arose. And there just aren't as many Russian tourists flying around an on cruise ships as there are from many other countries.

China...either China is lying, or this disease isn't as easily transmitted as thought, and/or there is a very significant number of people who get it and are relatively asymptomatic. As badly as China screwed up early on, it should have ended up infecting a lot more than 80-90k people.

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I mean, the virus is definitely extremely bad. Italy, Germany, Portugal, Spain, and even the US have show how easily transmittable the virus is/can be.

We simply don't know because the Chinese government isn't a reliable source for information, unfortunately.

bigfoot5415 said:

My pregnant wife, who is a CC employee, was denied testing by two locations (after being told to go to each by her CC doctor) by UN employees. She was then sent downtown to main campus and had to stand outside for 3 hours.

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My son had cold symptoms, so we contacted the pediatrician. The doctor went through all the symptoms, and my son only qualified for staying home. A big part of this process will have to be using the tests for legitimate concerns. With children, the key will be keeping them away from people who are in greater danger, like people with auto-immune issues and the over 65 crowd.


So sometimes the best answer is to just stay home, maybe you have it, maybe you don't, but you aren't in the group who is likely to die.

...and let's stay away from wild conspiracies. That isn't what this thread has been about and it doesn't help anybody.

NorthCoastBias said:

Twenty-one confirmed new cases in the span of 24 hours in Ohio.

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To put this into perspective and why Ohio leadership should be praised:

Randolphkeys said:

My son had cold symptoms, so we contacted the pediatrician. The doctor went through all the symptoms, and my son only qualified for staying home. A big part of this process will have to be using the tests for legitimate concerns. With children, the key will be keeping them away from people who are in greater danger, like people with auto-immune issues and the over 65 crowd.

Coronavirus Disease 2019 (COVID-19)

Coronavirus disease 2019 (COVID-19) is a virus (more specifically, a coronavirus) identified as the cause of an outbreak of respiratory illness first detected in Wuhan, China.

www.cdc.gov

So sometimes the best answer is to just stay home, maybe you have it, maybe you don't, but you aren't in the group who is likely to die.

...and let's stay away from wild conspiracies. That isn't what this thread has been about and it doesn't help anybody.

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Corrected my conspiracy post. Not blaming anyone. I just feel so weird about all of this....maybe its because of the overall experience.

As far as my wife is concerned, she typically would have stayed but her hospital has added a wing daily to fill with suspected cases and she more than likely came in contact. Since she is pregnant her doctor ordered a test. A 103 fever and all the signs showing up overnight are pretty scary. The most worrisome thing is we truly dont know how pregnant people are effected to date because their is so much unknown about this virus.

Amherstcavsfan said:

To put this into perspective and why Ohio leadership should be praised:

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Wonder how many of those cases are the assholes that decided to crowd the beaches on spring break.

bigfoot5415 said:

My pregnant wife, who is a CC employee, was denied testing by two locations (after being told to go to each by her CC doctor) by UH employees. She was then sent downtown to main campus and had to stand outside for 3 hours.

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because there was a line, or because they had people wait outside to avoid spreading it in waiting room?

Marcus said:

Wonder how many of those cases are the assholes that decided to crowd the beaches on spring break.

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Worse yet, I wonder how many of them are other people that their only sin was coming in contact with those assholes.

bigfoot5415 said:

Corrected my conspiracy post. Not blaming anyone. I just feel so weird about all of this....maybe its because of the overall experience.

As far as my wife is concerned, she typically would have stayed but her hospital has added a wing daily to fill with suspected cases and she more than likely came in contact. Since she is pregnant her doctor ordered a test. A 103 fever and all the signs showing up overnight are pretty scary. The most worrisome thing is we truly dont know how pregnant people are effected to date because their is so much unknown about this virus.

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If it helps, from the handful of pregnancies that have come to term from a confirmed COVID-19 mother, none of the children have tested positive for the virus.

I'm pretty sure that when I read this a few days ago, the number was 3.

Amherstcavsfan said:

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Florida is going to be a shit show. My aunt and uncle went down to Florida for the winter and there has been little to no intervention. They even kept Spring Break activities going.

EDIT - Marcus beat me to it. Unbelievable.

KI4MVP said:

because there was a line, or because they had people wait outside to avoid spreading it in waiting room?

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There was a drive through for non employees. Employees had a line in one of the garages. They were separated to try and prioritize their testing, but there were a few hundred people according to my wife.