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PLAYOFF GAME #2

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It’s our first crack at the playoffs and I know people are excited about the future, but you are going to have to go through Mahommes for the next 10 years to win a Super Bowl. This was a golden opportunity when he went out. If we lost a tight one where Pat went the whole 60, that’s one thing, but I think you have to evaluate this one differently.
 
YuenglingGator said:
I have no problem with the punt. I have a problem with our offense, play calling and blocking on the plays of that drive leading to the punt. That was the bigger issue.

You punt because you expect to stop Chad fucking Henne on 3rd and 14.
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This. We were not executing at all on offense leading up to the punt. It looked like we couldn't gain another yard.
 
CBBI said:
Who cares of the game ends sooner?

The Browns had the ball. They willingly chose to hand the ball over. The Browns never got the ball back.

Stefanski is a very good coach and rarely screws up, but the punt was a bad decision, period.

If the Browns go for it and don't get it, they're in the same scenario of needing to NOT give up 2 first downs. Where the Chiefs started with the football isn't really super relevant.
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it was 4th and 9. If it was 4th and 3 or 5, sure i get your point. But at 4th and 9 at your own 30.

If the chiefs presumably get the stop, they are already in FG range. Meaning even if the browns defense shows up you need a TD and a 2 point conversion to tie. I know some Twitter bot thinks it was a terrible decision, but the browns defense had been coming up with stops for most of the 2nd half, AND the chiefs were playing Chad Fucking henne.
 
redscoon said:
It’s our first crack at the playoffs and I know people are excited about the future, but you are going to have to go through Mahommes for the next 10 years to win a Super Bowl. This was a golden opportunity when he went out. If we lost a tight one where Pat went the whole 60, that’s one thing, but I think you have to evaluate this one differently.
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Yep.
 
The Wizard of Moz said:
Yeah... agreed. But I’m allowed to sit in the dark and drink while cancelling all my edible arrangement orders

Mahomes going out is just a once in a franchise opportunity and we didn’t capitalize
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It is, but look. Aaron Rodgers has been to 1 super bowl. Peyton Manning 4.

So my point here, I guess, is that it's not like the NBA. Even the very, very best QBs rarely can get on some type of run that they go to 4-5 straight superbowls. There's gonna be years where they get beat and the Browns won't even play them.

I mean the Steelers won 2 and made another yet NEVER beat the Patriots in the playoffs doing it. They just avoided them those years. So, that shit happens pretty regularly.

If I have one big criticism of Stefanski its that he came out, right away, not trying to establish the run. No idea why the plan wasn't to just keep the ball away from Mahomes.

I mean people were saying the Browns were only averaging 3 yards a run in the 1st half but Chubb only ran the ball 5 times.

Didn't get that.
 
bob2the2nd said:
it was 4th and 9. If it was 4th and 3 or 5, sure i get your point. But at 4th and 9 at your own 30.

If the chiefs presumably get the stop, they are already in FG range. Meaning even if the browns defense shows up you need a TD and a 2 point conversion to tie. I know some Twitter bot thinks it was a terrible decision, but the browns defense had been coming up with stops for most of the 2nd half, AND the chiefs were playing Chad Fucking henne.
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Ok so in either scenario you need a touchdown no matter what.

And in one scenario, you at least have a chance to convert a 9 yard play.

And in the other scenario, you don't get the ball back. Got it.
 
Recounting the series of things that went against the Browns late is pretty mind boggling.

Hill catching a ball with his hip that gave them a chance to score. If nothing else, it wasted 1 minute of clock

Jones somehow tackling Chubb by the jersey when he might have gained 15-20 yards on that play.

Henne running for 13 yards on a broken play.

Last one was especially deflating. I don’t even want to watch who was the end on that side that decide to crash inside and open that up.
 
CBBI said:
I don't disagree with you that KC was winning at the LOS, but why does this mean they should have punted?

Doesn't it stand to reason that this would not have been any different had the Browns got the ball back with like 1:20 to go?
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Because Chad Henne had just thrown a ridiculous interception the previous drive iirc.
 
CBBI said:
I don't disagree with you that KC was winning at the LOS, but why does this mean they should have punted?

Doesn't it stand to reason that this would not have been any different had the Browns got the ball back with like 1:20 to go?
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It would have been different if KC had scored a TD, not a FG. What were at, our 35? You don't think Reid would have been going for a TD? One Kelce catch over the middle in space and it's a TD. Pinning them back we could at least absorb a play or two like that and hope to force a TO.
 
This is all a death by a million papercuts, so why are we fighting over which papercut hurt the most?

Aside from the doink from Butker and the concussion on Mahomes, there were just too moments where an inch here or an inch there had huge repercussions. Gotta examine how everyone can execute a little better next year.

It was fun.
 
Tlyons said:
Because Chad Henne had just thrown a ridiculous interception the previous drive iirc.
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After moving the ball almost 40 yards and converting two first downs. People get hung up on the INT and forget that he had already picked up first downs on the Browns.
 
Lee said:
They scored 24, but the refs took away first and goal at the inch line by missing an obvious targeting call.
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Refs miss calls

We can control what we can control and this was a game we couldn’t afford turnovers

And we had 2 turnovers
 
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