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Browns 2021 Off-Season Thread

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What Position Should the Browns Focus On Improving?

  • Wide Receiver

    Votes: 6 4.5%

  • Defensive End/Edge

    Votes: 47 35.6%

  • Defensive Tackle

    Votes: 14 10.6%

  • Cornerbacks!

    Votes: 14 10.6%

  • Safeties

    Votes: 14 10.6%

  • DBs in General

    Votes: 59 44.7%

  • Linebacker Corps

    Votes: 70 53.0%

  • Leg-Related Special Teams Personnel

    Votes: 3 2.3%

  • Maine Coon

    Votes: 6 4.5%

  • Norwegian Forest Cat

    Votes: 5 3.8%
  • Total voters
    132
Randolphkeys said:
Without quotation marks, this sentence reads like Bill Callahan hammered.
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Bill Callahan is the best line coach in the game, if he was pulled over he would have had 5 large well coordinated men blocking the police in front of him, preventing Callahan from getting caught and Callahan have ended safely in his house without even getting touched.

Clearly that wasnt Bill Callahan.
 
MGMT said:
“Mayfield continues to stare Beckham down in offseason workouts; offense to take major step back with his return now that this video has surfaced”
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Edit- nah fuck Cowherd and his face.
 
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Steve_424 said:
Americans don't take DUI's seriously enough in general, which is sad. Harsher penalties would go a long way toward changing that.
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When I got mine my "punishment" was a 3 day weekend stay at a hotel to do drug and alcohol classes with other people (mostly) my age who all got one. They catered in food and after 5pm when the classes were done we could hangout, use the pool and hot tub, hit the gym... whatever. It was a joke. The real punishment is hitting you where it hurts most... the wallet. You lose your license, have to pay for a temporary ID, have to pay to eventually renew your license, pay the court costs, attorney if you try and fight it, the DUI classes and hotel, increased car insurance, and even pay for the "party plates" and installed car breathalyzer if the judge orders you to get those. It adds up quickly. It also hampers your ability to move up in the world. I was in my early 20's and had an entry level job at a Fortune 500 company. Had been there a few years and was ready to make a move elsewhere for more money and responsibility but couldn't. Hard to change jobs without a drivers license and a very recent red flag on your background check. Now, it's been 10+ years and employers could give a shit because it happened when I was "young and dumb" but at the time I'd say the punishment more than fit the crime between the money and opportunities it cost me.

I don't think I agree everyone should have the same punishment whether you blow .08 or .21 ... every case is different. Blowing .08 could happen to anyone after a few happy hour drinks at the bar and being unlucky enough to get pulled over for going like 5 over the speed limit by a dickhead cop. Blowing .21 is just fucking reckless, period... but even worse when doing 20mph over. I'm glad for Callie this isnt going to cost her her job but she's very lucky it didn't. And what was obviously a super long leash and budding career just changed in an instant now to where job security wise she's probably pretty low on the totem pole.
 
Out of the Rafters at the Q said:
Unpopular take... but the thing we should focus on is what the person does.

If what you did has a 20% chance of killing someone, we should focus on that decision--the part that is within the individual's control--not whether or not you got lucky or unlucky with the result.

Whether or not someone else just happened to be in the position where you could do harm to them shouldn't factor into it. It does, obviously, especially when we talk about legal consequences, but it shouldn't.
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Shouldn’t be unpopular take. This is called common sense.
 
Lee said:
Bill Callahan is the best line coach in the game, if he was pulled over he would have had 5 large well coordinated men blocking the police in front of him, preventing Callahan from getting caught and Callahan have ended safely in his house without even getting touched.

Clearly that wasnt Bill Callahan.
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If it was Bill, I'd picture something closer to this Fast and Furious scene:

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TheLand1287 said:
When I got mine my "punishment" was a 3 day weekend stay at a hotel to do drug and alcohol classes with other people (mostly) my age who all got one. They catered in food and after 5pm when the classes were done we could hangout, use the pool and hot tub, hit the gym... whatever. It was a joke. The real punishment is hitting you where it hurts most... the wallet. You lose your license, have to pay for a temporary ID, have to pay to eventually renew your license, pay the court costs, attorney if you try and fight it, the DUI classes and hotel, increased car insurance, and even pay for the "party plates" and installed car breathalyzer if the judge orders you to get those. It adds up quickly. It also hampers your ability to move up in the world. I was in my early 20's and had an entry level job at a Fortune 500 company. Had been there a few years and was ready to make a move elsewhere for more money and responsibility but couldn't. Hard to change jobs without a drivers license and a very recent red flag on your background check. Now, it's been 10+ years and employers could give a shit because it happened when I was "young and dumb" but at the time I'd say the punishment more than fit the crime between the money and opportunities it cost me.

I don't think I agree everyone should have the same punishment whether you blow .08 or .21 ... every case is different. Blowing .08 could happen to anyone after a few happy hour drinks at the bar and being unlucky enough to get pulled over for going like 5 over the speed limit by a dickhead cop. Blowing .21 is just fucking reckless, period... but even worse when doing 20mph over. I'm glad for Callie this isnt going to cost her her job but she's very lucky it didn't. And what was obviously a super long leash and budding career just changed in an instant now to where job security wise she's probably pretty low on the totem pole.
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Apparently the judge gave her a $700 fine, suspended her license, and she will have to take part in a driver intervention program. I'm not sure what the NFL may do - Melvin Gordon got suspended 3 games last fall for a DUI but it may be different for a non-player.

I don't know her personally but hopefully she's truly remorseful for putting other's lives in danger for her selfishness as opposed to just being sorry she got caught. In a time where you can get an Uber or Lyft using your phone, there's zero excuse for anyone driving while intoxicated like she was.
 
Lee said:
Holy crap she must drink allot. She is drunk, but to be like that at her size at .21. She should be ready to black out and she is kind of handling it.

She needs rehab.
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I'll throw out a "reading the tea leaves" theory that goes the opposite direction. I bet she isn't a regular drinker and got caught up in a party.

All signs from the Browns have been Brownson is very sharp and detail-oriented. This was also the first week of PRIDE celebrations. Wild guess here, but she might have gotten caught up in a party without much experience partying.

I figured this would be a suspension and rehab when the news dropped. But I'm reading the situation very differently, especially with her extremely poor judgement. Being a regular drinker, I know better... but it would explain why Brownson didn't know better.
 
The Human Q-Tip said:
Even decades ago, a DUI was a career-ender for officers in the military. That had a pretty significant impact on the old tradition of getting hammered at the O-Club then driving home.
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Still a career ender for officers. Had a fellow officer in my last unit get a GOMOR following a DUI... went from top block to out of the military within six months.
 
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