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Darius Kinnard Garland

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What is Darius Garland's Ceiling?

  • One Time All-Star

    Votes: 21 12.5%
  • Occasional All-Star

    Votes: 23 13.7%
  • 5-6 Time All-Star

    Votes: 31 18.5%
  • Perennial All-Star

    Votes: 39 23.2%
  • An All-NBA Team or Two

    Votes: 22 13.1%
  • Perennial All-NBA Teamer

    Votes: 20 11.9%
  • Occasional MVP Candidate

    Votes: 10 6.0%
  • Perennial MVP Candidate

    Votes: 2 1.2%
  • MVP, Baby!

    Votes: 10 6.0%
  • Being Jim Chones

    Votes: 13 7.7%

  • Total voters
    168
So Garland can run an offense better than Kyrie Irving. He is a better floor raiser and a ceiling raiser imo. Kyrie is an impossible guard almost, but his skillset and offensive savagery doesn't correlate with the gravity he SHOULD have. He doesn't create enough defensive breakdowns as you would expect from a guy with his skillset and he isn't good enough or willing enough passer to run a team.

Garland is also better than Harden at this point. Garland is doing what he is doing while averaging 2.5 FTA per game. A lot of players get to run their offense the way they want because they can abuse certain things or they have an incredible 3pt shot so you have to run the off the line, or whatever. Inspite of Harden's regression and athletic decline, I always thought he had a clear, unfair advantage in the way he generated his offense. His ability to penetrate the offense (Yes Lee) was always as a result of his foul baiting. Defenders always gave him the lane because they were afraid to foul him. What can you do when a player baits you outside the 3pt line as well as inside?

Garland is just an all around great basketball player without any holes to his offense. He doesn't abuse any particular thing. He doesn't bait or gets handed fouls. He doesn't push off. He still doesn't cause the defenders to close out hard on his 3's or defend him too closely despite his beautiful shot. It's still not part of his package. And yet, he gets to any area on the court, can shoot from anywhere with way above league efficiency and he plays with such pace and calmness that allows him to survey the court and make pin point accurate, timely passes to keep the defense out of loop and off balance.

He is just a really gifted basketball player and he is starting to figure out his scoring prowess. He is like Neo yo...and he is enjoying the process.

Imagine what he will be able to do once he gets to 5 FTA++ per game and starts using his inherent advantages to draw even more attention. He is just scratching the surface.

Fuck Harden.
Love the enthusiasm but I think calling Garland better than Harden right now is a reach. Harden is one the 15 best players in the league or so right now. Garland has been amazing, but he is not that tier yet
 
Harden is old and getting older. The game has taken its toll. Its why they can't make the Finals without Kyrie. Durant is still playing at a high level which is the key.

Garland is playing like a starter. But his cast is way too young for a Finals appearance right now, even if Mobley is a future NBA superstar. He isn't one right now. 2 teams, 2 ways built. 2 different futures.
 
So Garland can run an offense better than Kyrie Irving. He is a better floor raiser and a ceiling raiser imo. Kyrie is an impossible guard almost, but his skillset and offensive savagery doesn't correlate with the gravity he SHOULD have. He doesn't create enough defensive breakdowns as you would expect from a guy with his skillset and he isn't good enough or willing enough passer to run a team.

Garland is also better than Harden at this point. Garland is doing what he is doing while averaging 2.5 FTA per game. A lot of players get to run their offense the way they want because they can abuse certain things or they have an incredible 3pt shot so you have to run the off the line, or whatever. Inspite of Harden's regression and athletic decline, I always thought he had a clear, unfair advantage in the way he generated his offense. His ability to penetrate the offense (Yes Lee) was always as a result of his foul baiting. Defenders always gave him the lane because they were afraid to foul him. What can you do when a player baits you outside the 3pt line as well as inside?

Garland is just an all around great basketball player without any holes to his offense. He doesn't abuse any particular thing. He doesn't bait or gets handed fouls. He doesn't push off. He still doesn't cause the defenders to close out hard on his 3's or defend him too closely despite his beautiful shot. It's still not part of his package. And yet, he gets to any area on the court, can shoot from anywhere with way above league efficiency and he plays with such pace and calmness that allows him to survey the court and make pin point accurate, timely passes to keep the defense out of loop and off balance.

He is just a really gifted basketball player and he is starting to figure out his scoring prowess. He is like Neo yo...and he is enjoying the process.

Imagine what he will be able to do once he gets to 5 FTA++ per game and starts using his inherent advantages to draw even more attention. He is just scratching the surface.

Fuck Harden.
You've had some posts that kind of sucked. But this one is pretty good. Especially the last sentence.
 
So Garland can run an offense better than Kyrie Irving. He is a better floor raiser and a ceiling raiser imo.

You watched Kyrie outplay the reigning MVP in the Finals by putting up 27 points on elite efficiency and hit one of the clutchest shots in league history to help us win our first title against a 73-win team and you're going to sit here and say that a 3rd-year point guard who hasn't even played a lick of playoff basketball is a higher ceiling raiser.

I get we're all stoked about the guy and his future here, but come on...
 
You watched Kyrie outplay the reigning MVP in the Finals by putting up 27 points on elite efficiency and hit one of the clutchest shots in league history to help us win our first title against a 73-win team and you're going to sit here and say that a 3rd-year point guard who hasn't even played a lick of playoff basketball is a higher ceiling raiser.

I get we're all stoked about the guy and his future here, but GTFO.


Why should I GTFO?

I'm talking about the present Kyrie and what Garland's skillset can mean in the future.

You've had some posts that kind of sucked. But this one is pretty good. Especially the last sentence.


DOn't know what posts you speak of... "Peace" Dog.
 
Nothing more than a Speedy Claxton with no speed….
 
You watched Kyrie outplay the reigning MVP in the Finals by putting up 27 points on elite efficiency and hit one of the clutchest shots in league history to help us win our first title against a 73-win team and you're going to sit here and say that a 3rd-year point guard who hasn't even played a lick of playoff basketball is a higher ceiling raiser.

I get we're all stoked about the guy and his future here, but come on...
He had LeBron to run that offense.

Is this team better with Garland or Kyrie if they actually have to run the offense? Garland easily.

But if you have LeBron or Durant and/or Harden, I’d take Kyrie over Garland.
 
Why should I GTFO?

I'm talking about the present Kyrie and what Garland's skillset can mean in the future.




DOn't know what posts you speak of... "Peace" Dog.
 

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I don’t know if it’s possible without Rubio, but I’d love to knock these Nets out the playoffs. Kyrie doesn’t play at home so if you can steal a game or 2 in Brooklyn who knows.
 
Harden is old and getting older. The game has taken its toll. Its why they can't make the Finals without Kyrie. Durant is still playing at a high level which is the key.

Garland is playing like a starter. But his cast is way too young for a Finals appearance right now, even if Mobley is a future NBA superstar. He isn't one right now. 2 teams, 2 ways built. 2 different futures.

I agree we are not ready for the finals.

And Congrats to Garland, he is finally playing like a starter. He has 20+/10+ the last 3 games in a row. Only one player is average 20/10 and might not be after today.

On a side night, Garland is one of only 6 players averaging 19/7 and he is closer to 20/8 which there are 2.

But he is finally playing like a starter. Fuck that, he is playing like an all star right now. When your stats are like 6 other's in the league and you are doing it efficiently, that means you are playing like an all star.
 
I agree we are not ready for the finals.

And Congrats to Garland, he is finally playing like a starter. He has 20+/10+ the last 3 games in a row. Only one player is average 20/10 and might not be after today.

On a side night, Garland is one of only 6 players averaging 19/7 and he is closer to 20/8 which there are 2.

But he is finally playing like a starter. Fuck that, he is playing like an all star right now. When your stats are like 6 other's in the league and you are doing it efficiently, that means you are playing like an all star.

Maybe he is just an All-starter?
 

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