bigfoot5415
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Bogdanovich is the answer. Hawks blow.
It's not about being angry, it's about understanding your "logic"...both Lauri and Hart started their second contracts *this* season and are currently playing their 5th season...Lauri has played more minutes in his career than Hart has in his. The only "vet" experience Hart has over Lauri is the time he spent in college...
College helps, but I think Lauri is a young vet too. The biggest difference is Lauri is starting over a bit playing a new position 80% of the time while hart has been playing wing all of his career.
But I never said Lauri wasnt a young vet, he is 5 years into his career, started allot, put up big numbers. I guess young vet entering his prime for both. I like Hart, it would be a good add.
Rubio had been a pro for 7 years before coming to the NBA tho. And at a very high level since he was starting for Spain at 16. I dont think any NBA player other than Saba Sr and Pablo Prigoni had as much mileage going into their rookie years.
Sure, but I still think we should get EG if the price is rightEric Gordon played more NBA minutes in the 3 years he was drafted before Ricky got to the NBA, than Ricky has played overseas for 15yrs (2005-2020; source: https://www.basketball-reference.com/international/players/ricky-rubio-1.html)...sooo, Eric Gordon played about 7000 minutes from 2008-09 to 2010-11. Ricky played about 5400 minutes from 2005-06 to 2010-11...
The funny thing about Eric Gordon is he's almost 3yrs older than Ricky Rubio, and has played 3600 more NBA minutes in his career, but people have been worried about Ricky's mileage...
I’m not in favor of trading core pieces unless we get a godfather offer. For me Allen, Mobley, Okoro and Garland are core pieces. If we can use other assets to improve I’m ok with that but first - do no harm.It's very clear that I'm the only one against selling assets for short term marginal improvements, and thats fine. I'll die on this hill alone. These suggestions feel like the Pelicans trading for Steven Adams (whom I love) and Eric Bledsoe.
My ideal trade deadline has zero trades for this team, and finish the year playing with house money. In the summer, resign Rubio, extend Garland, and make any other moves to supplement what was learned this season.
@adam81king
Do you think we can try to do both, add talent and pick up another draft pick?
I am not against moving Rubio and Sexton if it brings in the right long term talent... essentially if we can keep or acquire more future aspects. To me anyone whose not in our main 9 is expendable...
Expecting Gordon to be anything but a Kevin Love at SG off the bench is abit much. You can't start him between DG and Lauri and expect our backcourt to have any defense. Rubio worked because his defense and playmaking was elite. Still though, JBB only used that combination for limited minutes with Rubio coming off the bench. If we're going to spend first round picks, I'd prefer going after longer-term wings like a 27 year old LaVert. I don't think we should do that either though. I think Koby needs to keep working on the margins for the bench until a major asset comes along and our young guys develop into their roles.Because we saw how good this team was with Rubio and how much pressure is on Garland now. So we can see how we need another really good two way player in the back court.
LOL!!! We don’t agree on a lot of issues but I 1,0000% agree with you here!Just bc Stevens won us a few games means you aren't going to trade for say Brandon Ingram if he is available bc Stevens was good? This is a more extreme example but someone like Eric Gordon has a very clear skillset that we can easily fit into the rotation. He would instantly be our 2nd best playmaker on the perimeter. You play Okoro a bit less, drop the rando wing mins of Stevens/Windler (one of whom is probably gone in such a trade), and probably play Cedi a bit less. 100% worth it.
I think this is the trade that the Cavs should pursue:
Cleveland receives: Derrick White & Zach Collins
San Antonio receives: Collin Sexton & Ricky Rubio
Why?
Cleveland finds their Ricky Rubio replacement.
San Antonio gets a young guard with upside & dumps Zach Collin's contract.