2021-2022 Cavaliers General Discussion: Trade Deadline Edition

Deleted, dumb idea.

Wham with the Right Hand said:

Rubio is a free agent at the end of the season and is done for the year so he has no value. They would have to pay him about $8 million for the rest of this season and then he could sign with anybody.

Sexton has one more year and he's a free agent. Markkanen is a good player and under contract for four years but he's not in George's league. I don't see how this trade helps them.

The Clippers are 2.5 games out of the 6th seed. George hasn't played in a month but he'll be back. Leonard may return from his ACL in time for the playoffs. The Clippers are built to win now and are solidly in their window for the next couple of years. George is 31, Leonard 30, Bledsoe 31, Marcus Morris Sr 32, Reggie Jackson 31, and Ibaka 32. They've spent a lot of money on veterans in an effort to win now.

Why would they trade George for Markkanen and two guys who are out for the year?

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I guess my thinking is, if Kawhi doesn’t come back, they’re not winning anything. They’re a very unspectacular team if you take away their Top 2. Maybe they have a thought of starting a rebuild and giving up on the experiment (again this should really be in the trade thread so apologies). Resign Sexton, gain some cap space, make other trades to help with the rebuild. Could Okoro help the trade? Maybe. I’m just fantasizing at this point but the scenario isn’t out of the realm of possibility.

A more reasonable split is Lilliard and McCollum -- but I don't think the Cavs will want to spend the ammo to get any of these big names.

Lyuokdea said:

A more reasonable split is Lilliard and McCollum -- but I don't think the Cavs will want to spend the ammo to get any of these big names.

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Those name are redundant with the makeup of the Cavs currently. There are a lot of trade targets, big and small deals that are possible however. The next few weeks are going to be fun.

Lyuokdea said:

A more reasonable split is Lilliard and McCollum -- but I don't think the Cavs will want to spend the ammo to get any of these big names.

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I’d like to say, “nor should they”. I think that’s what I think, but it would be pretty awesome to have Lillard if we didn’t have to sell the farm. I’d hate to lose Garland or Allen, and Mobley isn’t going anywhere.

I really don't think the Cavs are trading any of Garland, Allen, or Mobley for anyone pushing or in their 30s. I think their goal was, and remains to be: get these kids in the playoffs and get experience. I definitely think they'd like some veteran upgrades on the wing or bench, but I can't see them messing too much with a core thats over performing like they are right now.

The Cavs official twitter account posted these photoshopped trading cards in the LeBron 1.0 era unis and they look so good. Could they be making a comeback??

Victory.

chuck0609 said:

Why wouldn’t you accept this result? They are missing over 20% of their initial rotation and 67% of their initial ball handlers.
There is no reason to rush this thing- patience this year is the key. Enjoy the development and see how much better they get in the off-season. Especially Mobley, Garland and Okoro who will all improve organically.
Trying to go all in or moving a major piece would be nothing short of catastrophic.
PATIENCE.

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You're absolutely right. Sometimes i forget that our stars (Garland, Mobley, Allen) are pretty much pups compared to top stars in the league..

DCTribefan said:

Victory.

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Holy hell is Love sexy with that salt-pepper hair. If they trade him there needs to be riots.

Wham with the Right Hand said:

Be patient and make moves in the off-season. This team is not sufficiently talented to beat a team that includes Durant, Hardon, Kyrie, Patty Hills, Joe Harris, and Aldridge. Or DeRo, LaVine, Ball, Vucevic, Caruso, and Dosunmu. Probably not Miami or Milwaukee, either.

So relax, enjoy the season, keep developing the skills of Mobley, Okoro, Stevens, Windler, and Markkanen (as a 3). Then get Sexton back next year and see if we can take the next step. Then the following year Love's $30 million comes off the books and we turn that into an elite talent at the 2 and we make the EC our bitch. The Nets and W's will be done by then, too, as Durant, Harden, Curry, and Draymond ease into their mid-30's.

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If I could like your post twice I would. See what you can get for rubio's contract for depth reasons and stay put.

macbdog said:

Holy hell is Love sexy with that salt-pepper hair. If they trade him there needs to be riots.

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Looking like a young Cuomo brother…. Hide your daughters…. Literally

Ideally, I would love to see the Cavs acquire a big 2-guard that can score, pass, and defend. Somebody like Shai Gilgeous-Alexander. OKC won't make the playoffs this year or for a while - they're 14-30 and in 14th place. Outside of SGA and Giddey they don't have much.

However, they have 11 first round picks in the next three years! They have the Pistons' pick this year. And SGA is only 23. They will build around him.

But even if he was available, the Cavs have nothing to offer a team that wants to rebuild. No lottery picks in the next few years. No exciting young players other than Mobley, Garland, and Allen, and they're going nowhere. Nobody is going to give up an impact player for Okoro, Windler, and late draft picks.

If the Cavs make a move it will most likely be for a modest upgrade that won't cost any future assets, like the Rondo deal.

There was a report stating the Cavs were interested in Caris LeVert of Indiana. LeVert is making $17.5 M this year and $18.8 M next year, then he's a free agent. Ricky Rubio is making $17.8 M this year. So the Cavs could trade Rubio for LeVert and the money would be equal this year. Indiana would not have LeVert next year but would free up $18.8 M to be used elsewhere. If LeVert is not in their long term plans and they don't think they can contend next season (they're in 13th place now), maybe they would rather have the extra $19 M next year to help sign somebody to a four-year deal.

I don't know how Indy feels about LeVert. He's 27, in his sixth year, and is averaging 18.4 ppg on 44.7% from the field and 32.5% on 3's. He's also getting 4.1 assists and 3.6 rebounds; not bad for a 2-guard. He's 6'6", 205. The Pacers are 5.4 points better when he's on the court this year. He seems to be worth the money to me. He could be a guy they want as part of their core group for the future.

But this is the kind of deal I think the Cavs are looking for - getting a useful player whose current team is looking to cut salary next year and is willing to give him away for the cap relief. Whether they can find a deal is the question, but you start by looking at lottery teams who have players who don't fit their plans on multi-year deals or whose contracts will expire before the team will contend.