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What Resolves First?

  • Collin Sexton's Restricted Free Agency

    Votes: 19 38.8%
  • Baker Mayfield's Tenure with the Browns

    Votes: 30 61.2%

  • Total voters
    49
  • Poll closed .
Why the hell are we talking about Harrison Barnes?

bcz the cavs are suspect at the 3 with laurie....who imo is better suited coming off the bench and lavert is too small to play starter minutes there.....if you disagree...who else do you suggest that can do a 50/40 with a 108 defensive rating?....and whose been proven to be iron as opposed to paper like kevin love

its not always the most talented team that wins it but the healthiest.....do the pistons beat the lakers if both scott and magic are healthy?.....the celtics beat the bucks with a healthy middelton ?

the cavs sign sexton....trade love for harrison....they are still under the cap wiht a championship level team...


and then 12 minute/game carmello anthony signs for 2.5mm knowing that this is his last shot to get the ring

its all right there and the cavs world level management knows it
 
bcz the cavs are suspect at the 3 with laurie....who imo is better suited coming off the bench and lavert is too small to play starter minutes there.....if you disagree...who else do you suggest that can do a 50/40 with a 108 defensive rating?....and whose been proven to be iron as opposed to paper like kevin love

its not always the most talented team that wins it but the healthiest.....do the pistons beat the lakers if both scott and magic are healthy?.....the celtics beat the bucks with a healthy middelton ?

the cavs sign sexton....trade love for harrison....they are still under the cap wiht a championship level team...


and then 12 minute/game carmello anthony signs for 2.5mm knowing that this is his last shot to get the ring

its all right there and the cavs world level management knows it
We have some fantasy trade/GM threads you can post this type of stuff in.

I appreciate your creativity, but none of it is going to happen.
 
bcz the cavs are suspect at the 3 with laurie....who imo is better suited coming off the bench and lavert is too small to play starter minutes there.....if you disagree...who else do you suggest that can do a 50/40 with a 108 defensive rating?....and whose been proven to be iron as opposed to paper like kevin love

its not always the most talented team that wins it but the healthiest.....do the pistons beat the lakers if both scott and magic are healthy?.....the celtics beat the bucks with a healthy middelton ?

the cavs sign sexton....trade love for harrison....they are still under the cap wiht a championship level team...


and then 12 minute/game carmello anthony signs for 2.5mm knowing that this is his last shot to get the ring

its all right there and the cavs world level management knows it
Hiram?
 
Looks like the team assembled a play making PF rotation of E. Mobley, Love, and I Mobley after previously trying to do it with Love & Nance

I believe Evan will keep developing as a playmaker and I think Isaiah can also help if he develops into a rotation player. I do think I would try to add someone that is more of a point that can run the offense like a PG. I think with how Koby has built depth a point in a SF body probably proves the most lineup flexibility to the rest of the roster.
 
We have some fantasy trade/GM threads you can post this type of stuff in.

I appreciate your creativity, but none of it is going to happen.


just another mans opinion....but someone else sees the possiblity....


a confirmed and legit 50/40 guy who can put up a 108 defensive rating is what most people would consider as the quitessential "3 and D" player...arguably the most coveted player in the league at the moment. and with his favorable health history relative to kevin love...should the cavs resign sexton....a first round pick right now seems like solid value when taking into consideration that the cavs already pulled the trigger last year when they gave up a 1st round for lavert with rajon fukn rondo coming off the bench as opposed to presumably sexton....watch after they sign sexton....the cavs already have something in place to get rid of the injury-prone love....and imo the world-classs organization have already talked with carmello whose not signing anything until all the smoke clears.
 
just another mans opinion....but someone else sees the possiblity....


a confirmed and legit 50/40 guy who can put up a 108 defensive rating is what most people would consider as the quitessential "3 and D" player...arguably the most coveted player in the league at the moment. and with his favorable health history relative to kevin love...should the cavs resign sexton....a first round pick right now seems like solid value when taking into consideration that the cavs already pulled the trigger last year when they gave up a 1st round for lavert with rajon fukn rondo coming off the bench as opposed to presumably sexton....watch after they sign sexton....the cavs already have something in place to get rid of the injury-prone love....and imo the world-classs organization have already talked with carmello whose not signing anything until all the smoke clears.
As I said, it’s a fine fantasy scenario, but there’s no substance to it.

We try to keep these threads to substantiated talk, not fantasy dealings. There are separate threads for all that.

Just trying to help you have a better discussion in the appropriate place. Welcome to the boards.
 
When put into a lead guard role with facilitation responsibilities, I believe it is well within his wheelhouse to be the PG. Yes he still has tunnel vision, and he's not a natural visionary but most of his career his team sucked, we were losing, and he was the only guy that could get a bucket so he forced them to keep us in games at the expense of the 'team' at times.

It was very clear the Cavs weren't convinced Colin could do it after year 1 with all the pissed off vets, so they rightfully went BPA with Garland and then Colin greatly improved in the scoring department but didnt develop his PG skills like he should have in year 2.

I still think there's a team out there that sees lead guard potential in him and wilcl mold him into a 26/7 scoring PG guy, but we'll see how it shakes out the rest of the summmer, and if he takes the QO then he may or may not get a shot with another team next year if we dont lock him up for 3 years as super bench sub. He is worth 18-20M/yr as an uptempo point guard, not as a small SG. It all depends on his role and how he is molded...

Colin has been a little snake bit from the jump.. His college team was devoid of talent, which left him flying solo a lot. Then he gets drafted to Lebrons team, after which LeBron promptly exits, leaving a team devoid of assets and decent players. Love takes a vacation, pandemic hits.. then the knee..

I feel like he deserves a break in his direction..
 
Colin has been a little snake bit from the jump.. His college team was devoid of talent, which left him flying solo a lot. Then he gets drafted to Lebrons team, after which LeBron promptly exits, leaving a team devoid of assets and decent players. Love takes a vacation, pandemic hits.. then the knee..

I feel like he deserves a break in his direction..

I've always wondered how much the vets disliking Sexton in his rookie year was Sexton himself vs the dislike that the organization didn't trade that pick to give them a better chance at winning a championship the year before. While I don't believe LeBron would have stayed, I wonder if those vet players think he would have if they used the pick to get a good player the year earlier. They were pretty delusional with thinking they could compete without LeBron until they got hit in the face in those first 6 games and Lue gets fired (or quits).
 
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bcz the cavs are suspect at the 3 with laurie....who imo is better suited coming off the bench and lavert is too small to play starter minutes there.....if you disagree...who else do you suggest that can do a 50/40 with a 108 defensive rating?....and whose been proven to be iron as opposed to paper like kevin love

its not always the most talented team that wins it but the healthiest.....do the pistons beat the lakers if both scott and magic are healthy?.....the celtics beat the bucks with a healthy middelton ?

the cavs sign sexton....trade love for harrison....they are still under the cap wiht a championship level team...


and then 12 minute/game carmello anthony signs for 2.5mm knowing that this is his last shot to get the ring

its all right there and the cavs world level management knows it
This is beyond fantasy land.
You knock "injury prone" Kevin Love, but the Kings are supposed to trade Barnes for him??? What possible use would the Kings, a team nowhere near competing for a ring, have for Love?? Why don't we instead just trade Love for Giannis, that way not only do we get better but it hurts the Bucks too?? Once we get Giannis here Wade will be less useful, so maybe we can package him and a 2nd rounder to Dallas for Luka. I've heard Luka is sick of losing and wants to come to a "world level" organization.
We had a hard time attracting free agents when we were a championship level team with the best player in the world, but now vets are going to come here at a discount because you have a fantasy?? We are projected by Vegas to be a .500 team, and those casinos didn't get built by idiots. Outside of Sexton the roster is pretty much set, and the team will be content to hope its players continue to grow. Maybe in a couple years if Mobley develops like we hope this team will be in the conversation for a ring, but right now they are a 2nd or 3rd tier team in the East just hoping to earn a playoff berth.
 
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This is beyond fantasy land.
You knock "injury prone" Kevin Love, but the Kings are supposed to trade Barnes for him??? What possible use would the Kings, a team nowhere near competing for a ring, have for Love?? Why don't we instead just trade Love for Giannis, that way not only do we get better but it hurts the Bucks too?? Once we get Giannis here Wade will be less useful, so maybe we can package him and a 2nd rounder to Dallas for Luka. I've heard Luka is sick of losing and wants to come to a "world level" organization.
We had a hard time attracting free agents when we were a championship level team with the best player in the world, but now vets are going to come here at a discount because you have a fantasy?? We are projected by Vegas to be a .500 team, and those casinos didn't get built by idiots. Outside of Sexton the roster is pretty much set, and the team will be content to hope its players continue to grow. Maybe in a couple years if Mobley develops like we hope this team will be in the conversation for a ring, but right now they are a 2nd or 3rd tier team in the East just hoping to earn a playoff berth.
How long is Barnes under contract? If it's beyond the 22-23 season, the very clear value he'd bring is an expiring contract and roster flexibility for the following season(s).
 
How long is Barnes under contract? If it's beyond the 22-23 season, the very clear value he'd bring is an expiring contract and roster flexibility for the following season(s).
Barnes, like Love, is entering the last year of his deal. There's just no way on earth the Kings would ever make such a deal. Barnes will clearly be movable at the deadline if the Kings decide to do so, his 18 million dollar deal is not that difficult to build a deal around. Love's 28 million is more of a problem, the bigger the number the more pieces have to be involved, and the more pieces that are involved make a deal harder to finalize. It's a pure fantasy deal, one side gets what it wants and the other side gets nada.
 

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