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2023 Browns Off-Season Thread II: Free Agent Marathon: Settling in for the Long Haul: Slow and Steady: Patience is a Virtue: Loose Lips Sink Ships!

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No personal attacks. Not a new rule.

Typing this as I deal with a 6 month old throwing a fit and not sure who I’m more annoyed by atm

Trip prefers Hopkins to Cooper. Everyone else feels the other way. Can we all move on now or do we need 3 more pages to jab back and forth?
 
The only way Hopkins makes sense is if the Browns plan to let DPJ walk in free agency, and would utilize this as a way to trade him for value now while locking in Hopkins at a similar extension rate ($10-12M APY) for the next 2-3 years..

Otherwise, bringing on Hopkins would just be overkill and someone would bound to be upset they’re not getting enough touches..
 
No personal attacks. Not a new rule.

Typing this as I deal with a 6 month old throwing a fit and not sure who I’m more annoyed by atm

Trip prefers Hopkins to Cooper. Everyone else feels the other way. Can we all move on now or do we need 3 more pages to jab back and forth?

3 more pages should cover it.
 
Barnidge built the ship with his bare hands.

Webster Slaughter really gets my member moving in a nice trajectory….

I didn’t even realize YouTube has full old school games (even with commercials) on some channels…

Just watching the Browns randomly play say like the Chargers in 1988 and seeing the talent with Langhorne, Brennan, Slaughter etc…. Good stuff…
 
I can't relate to a lot of these comments or negative mindsets on the team.

Every year, once the off-season starts and the first FA is signed, and the draft picks are made, I'm seeing nothing but success and glory in the team's future. I'm going down the schedule and predicting the record. All of my "maybes" get counted as wins, baby! Legalized sports betting? Give me the over on season wins!!!

I don't get pessimistic until I see too much bullshit on the field.

Then I repeat this every off-season.
I can help out here.

I’m a generally a very optimistic person about my own life. I would say I have to give myself a dose of realism pretty regularly in order to not fly away with unrealistic expectations of myself and things I’m working on.

I can also catastrophize at times ie get into worst case scenario thinking when I don’t have control over circumstances. I pull myself out of that pretty quickly when I have a plan to regain control of the situation or accept I can’t.

If something I can’t control provides positive feedback most of the time, I’m ok with the lack of control. Good examples would be a client’s reaction to my work, results to a competition, my children’s sports events, etc. All these things could have positive or negative outcomes, but if a positive outcome is realistic and I have some involvement in that outcome it’s totally worth it.

I have no control over the Browns. I can accept that or I wouldn’t be a sports fan. I like other things about sports anyways.

But in spite of my generally optimistic outlook on my own life they have given me no reason to apply that same outlook to watching them.

Hence, it feels logical (even if it isnt) to catastrophize about them because it feels out of control watching them AND they provide very little positive feedback.

I’ve said this before, but someone’s reaction the Browns doesn’t seem to be an indicator of whether they are a positive or happy person. The team has been historically awful and deserves close critique until it can prove it doesn’t. Catastrophizing certainly isn’t good for anyone, but it’s understandable.

If someone wants to be optimistic about them, that’s great. I’m sure that’s enjoyable and is probably the more mentally healthy route. But if we’re looking at it as a function of actual expectations, it’s proven an inaccurate approach over 90% of the time.
 
I don’t expect the Browns to sign Hopkins with the other moves they’ve made at WR so far in free agency

But at the same time I would not be surprised at all. Not to say the Berry is putting all his eggs in the 2023 basket, but he’s been very aggressive this off-season.
 
I can help out here.

I’m a generally a very optimistic person about my own life. I would say I have to give myself a dose of realism pretty regularly in order to not fly away with unrealistic expectations of myself and things I’m working on.

I can also catastrophize at times ie get into worst case scenario thinking when I don’t have control over circumstances. I pull myself out of that pretty quickly when I have a plan to regain control of the situation or accept I can’t.

If something I can’t control provides positive feedback most of the time, I’m ok with the lack of control. Good examples would be a client’s reaction to my work, results to a competition, my children’s sports events, etc. All these things could have positive or negative outcomes, but if a positive outcome is realistic and I have some involvement in that outcome it’s totally worth it.

I have no control over the Browns. I can accept that or I wouldn’t be a sports fan. I like other things about sports anyways.

But in spite of my generally optimistic outlook on my own life they have given me no reason to apply that same outlook to watching them.

Hence, it feels logical (even if it isnt) to catastrophize about them because it feels out of control watching them AND they provide very little positive feedback.

I’ve said this before, but someone’s reaction the Browns doesn’t seem to be an indicator of whether they are a positive or happy person. The team has been historically awful and deserves close critique until it can prove it doesn’t. Catastrophizing certainly isn’t good for anyone, but it’s understandable.

If someone wants to be optimistic about them, that’s great. I’m sure that’s enjoyable and is probably the more mentally healthy route. But if we’re looking at it as a function of actual expectations, it’s proven an inaccurate approach over 90% of the time.
Pretty much what I've been trying to say as well. I'm ready to see them succeed. I think they have everything they need to succeed. But first they have to overcome the "It's the Browns" syndrome. It will take sustained high level success to change that narrative. It isn't going to be easy. I do applaud the efforts of the front office, and we'll see if the coaching staff can mold all the quality pieces into a high functioning unit on the field. It's easier said than done.

Until it actually happens I'm keeping my powder dry expectations-wise.
 
Whoa! Hopkins was released?!? Does anyone else think it’s a great idea to sign Hopkins? I just saw he was released by the Cardinals!!!!
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