1st quarter Ben=Detroit Ben, rest of game Ben=Old Ben

[diversebeats]

Has anyone noticed this.... He always plays good in the first quarter, and then sucks the rest of the game(sometimes shows up in the 4th, but Mike Brown doesn't play him in the 4th that often). It's really annoying... 5 offensive rebounds in the first 8 minutes of the game, none in the next 11 minutes he played...

Ben is just so inconsistent... He plays great 1 game, then sucks the next... I still like him.

Maybe he's still sick.. IDK..

 

[Mr2400]

in his defense, he was playing a guy 3 inches taller and he is just coming off of an intestinal flu. i wouldn't call him inconsistent. The lakers cleaned up the glass as the game went on. can't really blame him for not getting offensive boards. those come from the opponent making mistakes, usually. if they don't make mistakes on the glass, you don't get the offensive boards. that's how it goes.

 

[Jon]

No doubt we need more from him with Z out, but it is possible he just ran down.

 

[diversebeats]

in his defense, he was playing a guy 3 inches taller and he is just coming off of an intestinal flu. i wouldn't call him inconsistent. The lakers cleaned up the glass as the game went on. can't really blame him for not getting offensive boards. those come from the opponent making mistakes, usually. if they don't make mistakes on the glass, you don't get the offensive boards. that's how it goes.

well.. he didn't get any rebounds offensive or defensive outside of the first quarter. I'll admit, this was mostly reactionary to how bad he played today, but he always has those games where he plays with no energy. I don't see why he can't have games like he had against Miami on 12/28 every game, I mean i don't expect him to get 14 rebounds and 3 blocks, but just have games where he shows energy throughout.

Also... what does Pau being taller than ben have to do with him being able to knock ben down to deep in the post, Ben is one of the strongest players in the league, he should be able to at least keep pau out of the deep post.

 

[BorntobeCLE]

how come ben didnt play that much today? still feel the effects from the stomach flu?

 

[Jon]

They said he lost 10lbs... that's pretty significant.

 

[The Voice]

Diverse, have you ever had the flu and tried to play basketball the very next day or even anything that's physical? After having the flu, you still feel weak for a couple days or even a week after. For all we know, he could have been rushed back.

 

[CavsRules]

How do you get a ton out of the guy if he played 18 minutes?

 

[The Voice]

How do you get a ton out of the guy if he played 18 minutes?

We didn't get enough out of Kinsey, Jawad or Darnell Jackson tonight. They stunk it up!

 

[diversebeats]

We didn't get enough out of Kinsey, Jawad or Darnell Jackson tonight. They stunk it up!

6 rebounds, 1 steal, and 2 points isn't a lot of production even in 18 minutes. Not to mention he didn't do the things that don't show up on the box score, like box out, or play great man on man defense, he actually played pretty horrible defense.

Anyone here should know i am not just saying this because i want a scapegoat... Ben is by far my favorite player on this team, but even i can recognize when he doesn't show up in a huge game.

 

[CavsRules]

6 rebounds, 1 steal, and 2 points isn't a lot of production even in 18 minutes. Not to mention he didn't do the things that don't show up on the box score, like box out, or play great man on man defense, he actually played pretty horrible defense.

Anyone here should know i am not just saying this because i want a scapegoat... Ben is by far my favorite player on this team, but even i can recognize when he doesn't show up in a huge game.

I didn't watch the game, just listened.. So it sucks, but from what I got from the stat-sheet Ben should get more than 18 minutes regardless. Unless he is still sick and Brown is limiting him.. There is no reason why our best defensive big should be out of the game when L.A has two guys who can score like crazy on you.

We missed Z tonight big time, he and Ben work well together on the block whenever somebody comes into the lane. Would have been a different game with our full starting five for sure.

 

[diversebeats]

I didn't watch the game, just listened.. So it sucks, but from what I got from the stat-sheet Ben should get more than 18 minutes regardless. Unless he is still sick and Brown is limiting him.. There is no reason why our best defensive big should be out of the game when L.A has two guys who can score like crazy on you.

We missed Z tonight big time, he and Ben work well together on the block whenever somebody comes into the lane. Would have been a different game with our full starting five for sure.

Ben's energy was great for probably the first 4 minutes...after that, he was basically just a body there. I personally think Ben's minutes should be in longer stretches(he's old, but in GREAT SHAPE). He seems like the kind of player who's body relaxes when he sits down for a long period of time, and usually doesn't come off the bench lighting it up.

 

[KingSimba]

THis is why we have to have Ben involved in the offense in the 1st quarter. In the first he can be effective on offense and its seems woth players like Ben if you give them the ball in the 1st they deliver on defense for the rest of hte game

 

[lebronfan88]

to be honest i would just like to see some iso's involving ben. maybe a dribble or two towards the hoop to draw the foul or dish off to a wing player in mid flight. maybe even mix it up a bit with a little and 1 break dance while keeping the dribble alive, bounce the ball off the backboard jump as high as he can fake the dunk double clutch and lay it in right over someones head. or maybe take some threes. we need him to be aggressive if mo and lebron arent. we need him to do crossovers, why cant mike brown see this, wow...