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2007-08 TRAINING CAMP PREVIEW

2007-08 TRAINING CAMP PREVIEW: Guards

The Cavaliers are less than a week away from tipping off Training Camp and have a tough act to follow after last year's exhilarating postseason run to the Finals. Today, cavs.com will focus on the Wine and Gold's diverse backcourt ...


Larry Hughes – For the first time since the 2001-02 season, Hughes played 70 or more games last year. But once again he was dealt a blow late in the postseason, and a foot injury kept him out of the last two games of the NBA Finals.

Still, the lithe guard’s performance in the first two rounds of the postseason was vintage Hughes and his transition to the point keyed the Cavaliers late-season push, as they won eight straight in early March. Last year, when Hughes posted five or more assists, the Wine and Gold were a jaw-dropping 21-3.

Last year, Hughes averaged nearly 15 points per game in the regular season and just over a dozen in the playoffs. But Hughes’ contribution can’t be solely measured by scoring totals. He is most effective – as are the Cavaliers – when he does a little bit of everything. Quietly, he is the key to Cleveland’s success. Since he arrived on the North Coast two years ago, the Cavs are 63-36 when he starts, 36-15 when he scores more than 15 points, 34-5 when he notches five or more assists and 21-5 when he sinks two or more three-pointers.

How Hughes is used this upcoming season will shake out during Training Camp and (probably) beyond. Much depends on the play of Daniel Gibson and, of course, the Pavlovic contract scenario. When the season opens, he will be starting at one of Cleveland’s guard positions – the only question is which one.



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Daniel Gibson – No player’s stock rose more throughout the 2007 Playoffs than Daniel Gibson – who seemed to get better (and more comfortable) with each successive Round, culminating with his seminal 31-point effort against the Pistons in Game 6 of the Eastern Conference Finals. By the third game of the NBA Finals, Gibson had gone from a second-round Draft pick (44th overall) to the Wine and Gold’s starting point guard on the league’s biggest stage.

Boobie’s meteoric ascent began the minute he left the Earth for a massive dunk against the Pacers on November 24, and he didn’t come down until the clock ran out on Cleveland in Game 4 against San Antonio. He was 12-of-24 from three-point range and 33-of-37 from the line against Detroit and tallied 15 and 16 points, respectively, in the first two games against the stingy Spurs. When the calendar turned to June, Gibson was easily the Cavaliers’ second-best player.

But the Finals seem like a long time ago, and with Cleveland still seeking the right fit at point guard, Gibson will be given the opportunity to take the reigns. Depending on the (currently) tenuous contract status of Sasha Pavlovic, the precocious former Longhorn could be starting alongside Larry Hughes when the ball goes up against Dallas on opening night.

He’ll have to improve on his decision-making and some feel he’s a shooting guard in a point guard’s body. But there was a time that that was the rap on Chauncey Billups, and he turned out pretty well in Detroit. The future is bright for Gibson in Cleveland – it’s just a matter of how, where and when Mike Brown decides to use him.



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Sasha Pavlovic – As of the publication of this article, the Cavaliers and Pavlovic are still jousting over his contract situation, with the tug-of-war now pressing up against Training Camp less than one week away. Overtures have been lobbed from Pavlovic’s camp that he might eschew the Cavs qualifying offer and play in Europe.

Of course, this could be all leverage and posturing and odds are that Pavlovic will return to the Cleveland, even if it’s for a single season before becoming an unrestricted free agent after the year.

For the sake of this preview and contract talk aside, Pavlovic will not be handed the starting spot heading into Camp. Although the Cavaliers performed well with the Serbian swingman in the starting lineup – (20-8) – and he turned around the postseason with his block on Jason Kidd, the brass is determined to foster the growth of Daniel Gibson and begin the process with Shannon Brown.

Still, Pavlovic gives the Cavaliers size, experience, three-point shooting and athleticism. LeBron James loves running with him and his postseason defense had to please Mike Brown. The postseason also exposed his ball-handling and decision-making shortcomings, but it’s important to remember that he’s only 11 months older than LeBron.

Assuming Pavlovic inks a deal to stay in Cleveland, he should be considered the starting two-guard alongside Larry Hughes, but that could change between next Monday – when Camp tips off – and Oct. 31 – when the regular season does.



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Eric Snow – The Rodney Dangerfield of the Cavaliers’ backcourt, Eric Snow takes as much heat as anyone wearing the wine and gold. But the Cavaliers’ co-captain just keeps on keeping on – playing in 245 of the 246 games (including all 82 last year) since he returned to his hometown team.

Snow won’t be averaging 18 ppg anytime soon, but what he will do is play dogged defense, continue to be a coach on the floor and safeguard the ball in crunch time. The Canton Bulldog had a difficult time with Tony Parker’s speed in the Finals, but his relentless D on Chauncey Billups – especially in the final minutes of the epic Game 5 win at The Palace – or against New Jersey’s Vince Carter is one of the major reasons the Cavaliers were able to punch their ticket to San Antonio.

After 139 straight starts for Cleveland, Snow relinquished his spot in the lineup to Daniel Gibson. But he never made waves, instead focusing on other ways to help the club. Plus, the Cavaliers were actually 5-2 in games where Snow played 35 or more minutes.

Snow is the Cavaliers constant in an ever-changing universe and will contribute the same way this season as he has in the previous 12 as a pro: a solid presence on and off the court.



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Damon Jones – It’s been a long, strange trip for the DJ in Cleveland since he signed here before the 2005-06 season. He’s had moments of greatness – punctuated by his game-winner in Washington two summers ago. And he’s had moments of frustration – punctuated by his nine DNP-CDs in the first three rounds of the playoffs this year.

Jones has never re-discovered the magic from his final year in Miami, but continues to be an asset coming off the bench. Sometimes Mike Brown needs a closer out of the bullpen (E-Snow) and sometimes he needs a home run hitter (Damon Jones). And when Jones gets hot – like he did on Nov. 13 in New York when he drilled seven three pointers en route to 29 points – he can be scorching.

But Jones has self-admittedly never been a defensive stopper and doesn’t have the same burst at 31 as he did even a few seasons ago in South Beach. He averaged only 1.1 ppg through the Eastern Conference playoffs, but was one of the few Cavaliers who picked it up during the Finals, averaging 16.3 minutes per game and netting 4.5 points per contest in the four-game sweep.

Like Snow, the DJ heads in Training Camp essentially where he finished last season – a valuable bench guy and vocal veteran team leader.



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Shannon Brown – The No. 25 pick overall in the 2006 NBA Draft, Brown simply could not get untracked last season – battling injuries, inexperience and a numbers game as he struggled to carve out his NBA niche like his classmate, Daniel Gibson, did.

But the uber-athletic former Spartan did show glimpses of brilliance, most notably in the March 3 blowout of the Raptors at The Q. In that contest, Brown canned all three three-pointers he attempted and was 4-for-6 from the floor for 14 points. Unfortunately, more often than not, he was inactive – 43 games in all – and didn’t see any action during the Cavaliers’ 2007 postseason run. A nagging left leg injury just added to his difficult rookie campaign.

Brown went back to the drawing board during Summer League in Vegas and was very productive for the Wine and Gold. In five games, Brown averaged 17.2 points per contest – including a 26-point effort against the Chinese squad. Despite shooting just 39 percent from the floor, Brown netted double figures in every outing and added 2.4 boards and 3.2 assists per game.

Cleveland will give Brown every opportunity to have a breakout sophomore season, beginning when Training Camp tips off on Monday night. Brown had a nice pre-season last year, but couldn’t translate that into regular season success. He and the Cavaliers hope that – like his close friend, Gibson – he explodes onto the scene when the time is right.

http://www.nba.com/cavaliers/features/camp_guards_070924.html
 
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Thanks Max,

Our guard situation is a wierd one. Some days you can feel good about it, with the versatile Hughes, the talented Sasha, sweet shooting Gibson and athletic Brown. Other days it is the injured Larry, horrible handling Sasha, and unproven sophmores Gibson and Brown.

Overall we dont have that prototype point guard we savour, but we do have options going forth. If these rumours of Devin Brown are true, we certainly have good depth. It will just be a matter of getting these pieces to mould in well and get this offense rolling.
 
2007-08 TRAINING CAMP PREVIEW: Forwards


The Cavaliers are less than a week away from tipping off Training Camp and have a tough act to follow after last year's exhilarating postseason run to the Finals. Today, cavs.com will focus on the Wine and Gold's fantastic forwards ...


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LeBron James – What more can be said about LeBron James that hasn’t already been said? He is simply the face of the franchise and perhaps the league, itself. He’s fresh off a trip the Finals and finally won the gold with Team USA, running the table during the FIBA Americas Championship this summer in Vegas.

He has shattered – or is about to shatter – every team record available, and will begin shifting his attention on NBA marks before he turns 25.

Last season, he averaged 27.3 points, 6.7 boards and 6.0 dimes per contest and had equally gaudy numbers during the playoffs – notching 25.8, 8.3, 8.3 in 20 games. But numbers couldn’t begin to describe the performance he turned in against Detroit in the epic Game 5 double-overtime win in which he essentially put the team on his back, scoring 29 of the club’s final 30 points – including the final 25. Even by James’ standards, it was a performance for the ages.

In what was supposed to be a semi-restful summer for the young King, LeBron welcomed his second son on the final night of the Finals, hosted the ESPY Awards, won the gold for Team USA, worked on his jumper with assistant coach Chris Jent and will host “Saturday Night Live” this weekend before Camp tips off on Monday.

In his prolific four years in the league, the only award – besides (so far) the MVP – that has eluded James is the NBA Championship. He got closer to it faster than most experts predicted and he’ll return even hungrier in 2007-08.



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Donyell Marshall – Like Damon Jones, the 34-year-old Marshall isn’t the threat he once was, but teams can underestimate him at their own peril. New Jersey did in Game 6 of the of the Eastern Conference Semi-Finals and all he did was light them up for 18 points in 19 minutes – draining six three-pointers – to send the Wine and Gold to the Eastern Conference Finals for the first time in 15 years.

Marshall didn’t have a slew of high-scoring games in 2006-07, but in the seven games that he netted over 15 points, the Cavaliers were 6-1. (Cleveland was 15-6 in games when he notched double-figures.) His rebounding numbers were down, which has to be slightly concerning to Mike Brown. But he’s also asked to do more on the perimeter, which explains the decline on the boards (6.1 rpg in 2005-06; 4.0 in ’06-07).

Marshall is also one of the club’s iron men. In two seasons with the Wine and Gold, Marshall has played in 162 of the Cavaliers’ 164 regular season games. Much of that can be attributed to the fact that he came into Camp last season in great shape. And the Cavaliers are one of the deeper teams in the league along the front line.

Coming into this year’s Training Camp, the 13-year veteran knows exactly what’s expected of him. Once again he’ll be asked to stretch the defense with the long ball, contribute in the paint and be a stable veteran presence.



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Anderson Varejao – As of this writing – like his teammate Sasha Pavlovic – Vareajo is still in contract limbo. Like Pavlovic, his agent has threatened to have his young gun play overseas. But if the odds of the Cavaliers letting Pavlovic play across the pond were slim, the chances that Danny Ferry will allow Anderson to get away are even slimmer.

That’s not to say that it can’t happen, but for the sake of this Preview, let’s assume the Wild Thing will be Stateside, wearing black and blue and wine and gold once more this season.

After missing substantial time in 2005-06, Anderson bounced back to have his best season as a pro last year. He played in 81 games, averaging 6.7 points and 6.8 boards per contest and was once again the Cavaliers best big off the bench. His jaw-dropping, game-winning dunk over Chris Bosh in a post-All-Star road win over Toronto might have been the play of the year.

The high-energy fan favorite got the reputation as a “flopper” because of his penchant for drawing offensive fouls. It truly gets under opponents’ skin, but is nonetheless extremely effective. And one can easily take issue with that reputation. Vlade Divac going airborne while being backed down is flopping; holding your ground while a 280-lb. man is driving full-speed into the lane is taking a charge.

When (and if?) the Wild Thing reports to Camp, his role will be as clearly defined as any player on the roster. Mike Brown may not trust him expanding his offensive skills heading into the season, but it wouldn’t be surprising to see Anderson testing the waters, either.



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Drew Gooden – For as much grief as Drew Gooden gets for being inconsistent, he is probably the club’s second-most consistent player behind LeBron James. Though it seems like the former Jayhawk has been around forever, he just turned 26 this week. After being traded twice in his first two years, Gooden has finally found a home and is expecting a breakout season now that he has.

Gooden averaged 11.1 ppg In 80 regular season games and 11.1 ppg in 16 postseason starts – (told you he was consistent) – and led the squad at 8.5 rebounds per contest despite averaging only 28.0 minutes per game. Gooden also tallied 25 double-doubles and was in the league’s top five in offensive rebounding.

Drew dominated the Wizards’ frontline in the First Round this spring – leading the league in FG percentage. And true to his quirky personality, he had a monster game against Washington one year to the day after punishing them the previous postseason. He struggled against Detroit, but had a solid series against the Spurs in the Finals.

Gooden comes into Camp as the incumbent at power forward and, more than anything, will look to stay on the floor for longer than 28 minutes a night. If he’s able to avoid the defensive lapses and early foul troubles that have prompted Coach Brown to pull him, he might be able to elevate his game to an All-Star level in 2007-08.



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Ira NewbleThe man who started 69 games in 2004-05 has seen his minutes reduced drastically during Mike Brown’s tenure, but has responded like a true professional. Along with Zydrunas Ilgauskas, Newble is the only Cavalier to have spanned the entire LeBron James era.

Newble may not put up double-figures or throw down highlight reel dunks, but he’s the consummate teammate and is always ready to roll when his number’s called. In his only start of the season – against Sacramento on March 13 – he notched 12 points, seven boards and a pair of steals. He tallied nine points and five boards off the bench in a big win in Washington on April 6 and finished the season making eight of the 10 three-pointers he attempted.

The rugged forward from Miami (Oh.) comes to Camp with the same expectations as he has the past four seasons – to bust it in practice and stay ready for any action under the bright lights.




http://www.nba.com/cavaliers/features/camp_forwards_070925.html
 
Yeah, dunno 'bout that unless you're judging consistency based on getting a 10/10.
 
certainly some players inconsistency is looked at differently than others. For example, Andy is as about as inconsistent as drew, but his inconsistency is rarely talked about.
 
certainly some players inconsistency is looked at differently than others. For example, Andy is as about as inconsistent as drew, but his inconsistency is rarely talked about.

Andy's offense is very erratic, but the inconsistency we all talk about is the efforts on court. Andy plays every play like its the last play with the game on the line. Drew as we all know has mental blocks throughout the course of the game. Drew certainly has the talent to be much more then he is. Unfortunately he doesn't have the mental capacity to fulfill that natural potential.
 
man the Cavs have a whole mess of 2 guards with a couple who are going to pretend they are a PG. hopefully by the trade deadline our roster looks a little bit different.

as for Sasha I think the Cavs have to decide between he and Shannon Brown, I just don't see their being playing time for the both of them. I have never been a huge fan of Sasha but I don't see the NBA upside for Brown so I hope they chose Sasha.
 

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