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Dylan “Breaking” Windler is a Laker. How much help does LeBron need!?

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Which of Dylan Windler's Organs are most Desirable for Harvesting?

  • Lungs (because he is great at cheering while in street clothes)

    Votes: 1 2.3%
  • Liver (Ricky Rubio could use a new one)

    Votes: 4 9.3%
  • Kidneys (of no immediate use, but useful for cash considerations)

    Votes: 1 2.3%
  • Heart (in excellent shape from so much sideline cardio)

    Votes: 2 4.7%
  • Uterus

    Votes: 6 14.0%
  • Ovaries

    Votes: 12 27.9%
  • Eyes (useful for changing eye color without contact lenses)

    Votes: 1 2.3%
  • Foreskin (for circumcision reversal)

    Votes: 7 16.3%
  • Face (a sop for the Faceless Men)

    Votes: 1 2.3%
  • Whatever Jim Chones would like

    Votes: 16 37.2%

  • Total voters
    43
Windler has been basically a ghost this off season. If healthy, does anybody think he has a place in next year's rotation?
 
Windler has been basically a ghost this off season. If healthy, does anybody think he has a place in next year's rotation?
No, this team just has way too much talent to find time for him. Of course there is room, so long as he's healthy and finds his shot again. There is always room for a good shooter with some size.
 
Windler has been basically a ghost this off season. If healthy, does anybody think he has a place in next year's rotation?
He plays the same position as Okoro, Cedi, and Prince. I think Cedi might be the odd man out. Prince had ankle surgery so he should be ready to go. He shot 41.5% on 3's after coming to Cleveland. The Cavs need that kind of 3-point shooting.

It will be tough even for a healthy Windler to find minutes the way the roster is currently structured. But if Sexton is traded and Okoro is moved to the 2, it will open things up and Windler would have a shot at getting into the rotation.
 
Just to add that I thought Windler was a good player when he was healthy. I'm pasting a paragraph from post #996 on the previous page.

If we want an accurate picture of what Windler can do I think we have to throw out March, when he was obviously hurt, and look at a five-week period in late January and February. From Jan. 22 to Feb. 27 Windler shot 48.9% from the field and 40.0% on 3's. Those are excellent numbers for a rookie and when you throw in his rebounding and steals, which were well above average for his position, he was a pretty good player. He was averaging less than one turnover in 19.4 minutes per game. I could see why his minutes were climbing.

Also...

In block percentage he was in the 91st percentile. In steal percentage he was in the 75th percentile. In defensive rebounding he was in the 94th percentile. In foul percentage he was average; 53rd percentile. He was a guy who got steals and blocks while excelling on the defensive glass without committing a lot of fouls. Windler was an asset when the opponent had the ball.

So if you combine his defense, where he was well above average in blocks, steals, and rebounds with his Jan-Feb shooting numbers (49% and 40%) and his offensive rebounding (72nd percentile for wings) you have a guy who contributes on both ends of the floor.

What killed him was turnover rate, mid-range shooting, and non-corner 3's. Windler was in the 87th percentile in corner 3's but from the wings and straight on he was in the 11th percent. The corner 3's are from the same distance as in college but the other 3's are longer so he needs to increase his range. That, and reducing turnovers, which is just a matter of adjusting to the increased speed of the NBA and the more athletic defenders than he faced at Belmont.

I think if this guy can stay healthy he can be a good pro - a solid 3-and-D wing - just what the Cavs need. Coming from a small college it's a bigger jump to the NBA than for most and unfortunately, he missed his entire rookie year and his second year was start and stop due to more injuries. If he can stay healthy for an extended period of time I think he can work his way into playing consistent minutes.
 
Just to add that I thought Windler was a good player when he was healthy. I'm pasting a paragraph from post #996 on the previous page.

If we want an accurate picture of what Windler can do I think we have to throw out March, when he was obviously hurt, and look at a five-week period in late January and February. From Jan. 22 to Feb. 27 Windler shot 48.9% from the field and 40.0% on 3's. Those are excellent numbers for a rookie and when you throw in his rebounding and steals, which were well above average for his position, he was a pretty good player. He was averaging less than one turnover in 19.4 minutes per game. I could see why his minutes were climbing.

Also...

In block percentage he was in the 91st percentile. In steal percentage he was in the 75th percentile. In defensive rebounding he was in the 94th percentile. In foul percentage he was average; 53rd percentile. He was a guy who got steals and blocks while excelling on the defensive glass without committing a lot of fouls. Windler was an asset when the opponent had the ball.

So if you combine his defense, where he was well above average in blocks, steals, and rebounds with his Jan-Feb shooting numbers (49% and 40%) and his offensive rebounding (72nd percentile for wings) you have a guy who contributes on both ends of the floor.

What killed him was turnover rate, mid-range shooting, and non-corner 3's. Windler was in the 87th percentile in corner 3's but from the wings and straight on he was in the 11th percent. The corner 3's are from the same distance as in college but the other 3's are longer so he needs to increase his range. That, and reducing turnovers, which is just a matter of adjusting to the increased speed of the NBA and the more athletic defenders than he faced at Belmont.

I think if this guy can stay healthy he can be a good pro - a solid 3-and-D wing - just what the Cavs need. Coming from a small college it's a bigger jump to the NBA than for most and unfortunately, he missed his entire rookie year and his second year was start and stop due to more injuries. If he can stay healthy for an extended period of time I think he can work his way into playing consistent minutes.

I don't think anyone is calling Windler a trash player, or a hopeless one. It's that "when healthy" part that folks are using as a basis for not counting on him. If he's healthy, it's a good problem to have. The Cavaliers need to plan like he won't be, *because* he hasn't been his entire career.
 
Passing on Keldon Johnson for Windler was one of Koby’s few mistakes in the draft. If I recall correctly, John Beilein loved Windler and I think he heavily influenced that pick, so there’s that. Just goes to show, that it’s the GM’s neck who is on the line, even after the coach is gone, so he better pick the guy he feels most strongly about.
 
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Windler needs to focus on hitting the 3s he gets and can work on going to the basket later. He just should focus on making himself a threat from 3 first. The other stuff will come. Thought he was doing too much
 
Passing on Keldon Johnson for Windler was one of Koby’s few mistakes in the draft. If I recall correctly, John Beilein loved Windler and I think he heavily influenced that pick, so there’s that. Just goes to show, that it’s the GM’s neck who is on the line, even after the coach is gone, so he better pick the guy he feels most strongly about.
Goes to show that Beilein was the Cavs worst hire ever. The guy is even in the GM room influencing bad picks while on the sidelines sucking as a coach.
 
Goes to show that Beilein was the Cavs worst hire ever. The guy is even in the GM room influencing bad picks while on the sidelines sucking as a coach.
I don’t think the guy is a bad coach at all. I think he’s an excellent coach. The guy never had a chance here once the veterans, like Kevin Love, turned on him.
 

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