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2020 Final Series Pirates @ Indians, Sep. 25-27
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Unintended foreshadowing, lol
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Does the division or home field really matter to anyone? I would rather be facing an easier bracket for the 1st two series'.
Edit: Ive looked up the modern rules. We absolutely want either the division or the 1st second place team.
3 at home baby!!
Edit: Ive looked up the modern rules. We absolutely want either the division or the 1st second place team.
3 at home baby!!
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IMO the first round opponent matters a great deal. There are still so many possibilities, that its hard to handicap.
But I'd rather be at home vs NY or Toronto, both of whom have been pretty bad away from their home fields. (Toronto, playing two with Baltimore, wins a tiebreaker with NY, if they win both and the Yanks lose one more.)
Besides its only a 60 game sesson. In a normal year, it would be June...and nobody talks about days off in June.
I'd even consider pitching Quantrill and TMac on Sunday..burn them both..if it meant a good shot at such a scenario.
It depends of course on what happens tomorrow.
The scenarios range from playing the Twins at Target or Oakland away to hosting Toronto...with a lot in between.
But I'd rather be at home vs NY or Toronto, both of whom have been pretty bad away from their home fields. (Toronto, playing two with Baltimore, wins a tiebreaker with NY, if they win both and the Yanks lose one more.)
Besides its only a 60 game sesson. In a normal year, it would be June...and nobody talks about days off in June.
I'd even consider pitching Quantrill and TMac on Sunday..burn them both..if it meant a good shot at such a scenario.
It depends of course on what happens tomorrow.
The scenarios range from playing the Twins at Target or Oakland away to hosting Toronto...with a lot in between.
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IMO we have to go all in on finishing ahead of the White Sox and getting that #4 seed. Otherwise it's the #7 and we go to either Oakland or Minny.
The Cubs only need to win one game or have the Cardinals lose one to clinch the division and the Cardinals are playing back-to-back doubleheaders. Chances are the Cubs will clinch the division today and Sunday's Cubs/White Sox game won't mean anything to the Cubs and they're rest some starters. Their starting pitcher Sunday is a kid who's only started two games this year. So for the Tribe to stay ahead of the White Sox they need to be ready to win the last two games. Hopefully the Cubs win tonight and Civale beats the Pirates which will clinch 4th place for the Tribe.
No way the Reds sweep the Twins in Minny, right? That's what it would take for us to win the division. It would be funny if the Reds won today and Trevor Bauer beat the Twins on Sunday to give the Tribe the Central Division title. The Reds beat Berrios last night so they have a shot, especially with Luis Castillo and his 2.86 ERA going today. When Castillo is good he's very, very good.
Can you believe Keller threw a five-inning no-hitter against us after six no-hit innings in his last start? That hasn't been done since 1938. It goes to show you can walk as many hitters as you want as long as you don't give up hits. The only exception is if you walk a guy with the bases loaded, which Santana gave him no chance to do.
Speaking of which, the Tribe's announcers were all over Santana last night for swinging at the first pitch he saw after Keller walked the first three batters to lead off the game, throwing only three strikes in the process. Carlos banged into a double play to kill the big inning.
OK, if Carlos chased a bad pitch I would agree, but he got a pitch right down the middle. I'm sure Carlos was thinking that Keller did not want to walk in a run and would try to get ahead with a first pitch strike, especially since everybody including the cardboard heads assumed there was no way Santana would be swinging. So Carlos decided to ambush him and jump on a fastball down the middle. I like the idea, but unfortunately Carlos was unable to square it up or elevate it and he didn't get lucky and find a hole against the drawn-in infield, either. I can't fault him for not hitting a line drive because nobody hit one off this kid in six innings except Naquin. It just shows that having the bases loaded and nobody out is not a big problem if the other team can't hit your stuff and you don't walk anybody else.
The Cubs only need to win one game or have the Cardinals lose one to clinch the division and the Cardinals are playing back-to-back doubleheaders. Chances are the Cubs will clinch the division today and Sunday's Cubs/White Sox game won't mean anything to the Cubs and they're rest some starters. Their starting pitcher Sunday is a kid who's only started two games this year. So for the Tribe to stay ahead of the White Sox they need to be ready to win the last two games. Hopefully the Cubs win tonight and Civale beats the Pirates which will clinch 4th place for the Tribe.
No way the Reds sweep the Twins in Minny, right? That's what it would take for us to win the division. It would be funny if the Reds won today and Trevor Bauer beat the Twins on Sunday to give the Tribe the Central Division title. The Reds beat Berrios last night so they have a shot, especially with Luis Castillo and his 2.86 ERA going today. When Castillo is good he's very, very good.
Can you believe Keller threw a five-inning no-hitter against us after six no-hit innings in his last start? That hasn't been done since 1938. It goes to show you can walk as many hitters as you want as long as you don't give up hits. The only exception is if you walk a guy with the bases loaded, which Santana gave him no chance to do.
Speaking of which, the Tribe's announcers were all over Santana last night for swinging at the first pitch he saw after Keller walked the first three batters to lead off the game, throwing only three strikes in the process. Carlos banged into a double play to kill the big inning.
OK, if Carlos chased a bad pitch I would agree, but he got a pitch right down the middle. I'm sure Carlos was thinking that Keller did not want to walk in a run and would try to get ahead with a first pitch strike, especially since everybody including the cardboard heads assumed there was no way Santana would be swinging. So Carlos decided to ambush him and jump on a fastball down the middle. I like the idea, but unfortunately Carlos was unable to square it up or elevate it and he didn't get lucky and find a hole against the drawn-in infield, either. I can't fault him for not hitting a line drive because nobody hit one off this kid in six innings except Naquin. It just shows that having the bases loaded and nobody out is not a big problem if the other team can't hit your stuff and you don't walk anybody else.
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Not a bad write-up except the Brewers-Cardinals are not playing back to back double headers.. Only 1 game per day on Sat & Sun this weekend.
And all of baseball is starting its lone game around the same window of time on Sunday (3:05 to 3:15 Eastern time)..
...and of course Carlos (and Franny) didn't give him a chance to walk anybody else - that was dumb, losing baseball
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Carlos was sitting fastball and Keller gave him one. I don’t have an issue with the decision making, just the result. Admittedly, I don’t recall what Franmil did.
If Carlos was gonna get a gimme pitch, he was gonna get two. Much much much better to ambush him on the second one...if there was ever a second one.
It wasnt just Carlos. We swung at first strikes four times last night after a walk.
Thats bad baseball at any level.
The Tribe has come back to win late in games a lot lately, and its exciting. But it has covered up a lot of bad baseball that necessitated those comebacks.
Bad defense, bad fundamentals, bad baserunning, bad decision making at the plate, and at times a lack of basic hustle.
Last night we saw Frankie not hustle to second and Naylor trot down the first base line. The other night we saw Frankie stand and admire his home run that wasnt. Twice in the past three games we've scored in close plays at the plate on plays that should not have been close.
None of that has cost us a game...
But they will eventually.
If this was mid June of a normal season, instead of the last weekend of a stretch run, Tito would be having his version of a melt down. We might not hear about it, but the players would.
It wasnt just Carlos. We swung at first strikes four times last night after a walk.
Thats bad baseball at any level.
The Tribe has come back to win late in games a lot lately, and its exciting. But it has covered up a lot of bad baseball that necessitated those comebacks.
Bad defense, bad fundamentals, bad baserunning, bad decision making at the plate, and at times a lack of basic hustle.
Last night we saw Frankie not hustle to second and Naylor trot down the first base line. The other night we saw Frankie stand and admire his home run that wasnt. Twice in the past three games we've scored in close plays at the plate on plays that should not have been close.
None of that has cost us a game...
But they will eventually.
If this was mid June of a normal season, instead of the last weekend of a stretch run, Tito would be having his version of a melt down. We might not hear about it, but the players would.
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Yes, it's time to start focusing on the fundamentals like not getting picked off and remembering to slide when they're trying to throw you out. I have no idea what Lindor was thinking other than he expected Moran to just tag first base and make no throw to second. To go in standing up and get tagged out in a one-run or tie game is inexcusable. He should be fined.
The defense has also taken a step back recently with Hosey booting ground balls, DeShields getting bad jumps or breaking the wrong way or letting a ball bounce out of his glove, Naylor throwing balls into the press box (or close, anyway), etc.
The good thing is that last night's game looks like the toughest one of the series on paper. I'll be really surprised if either of the Pirates' starters today and tomorrow throw six innings allowing just one run. And Civale threw a complete game against them in the first series.
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I would not have a problem with Santana swinging at the 1st pitch after watching the 1st 3 batters get walked, if he was hitting above the Mendoza line. As the league leader in walks he made a poor decision. Should of made Keller pitch to him.
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Well, we won, so I guess by your own logic it was a good decision since it all worked out
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Bankees get 7 in the 5th and 6th and now lead the Fish by 4. A loss would have guaranteed us finishing ahead of them. What’s the season series, between us and the Bankees?