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My idea to eliminate tanking is for there to be a March Madness style tournament for the teams that miss the playoffs, seeded according to their regular-season record. Then, the tournament is played and the teams' draft lottery odds are determined by how they finish in the tournament.

This incentivizes teams to compete and win during the regular season for seeding, and in the tournament to boost their draft lottery odds.

It would also add an element of excitement for the fans of the teams that miss the playoffs.
 
What’s disgraceful is that there’s an NBA team out there absolutely shameless about tanking. They’ve gone 1-12. It’s even more ridiculous that some of the fans of that team are upset that the team didn‘t go 0-13.

Koby Altman should be fired for demanding that the Cavaliers beat Boston, and in particular for exploiting his close and mutually respectful relationship with Kevin Love to inspire the latter to lead the Cavaliers to one of the most damaging wins in NBA history.

The lottery system is grossly unfair and has cheated many teams out of deserved drafting positions. In particular one franchise has won the lottery three times in the past ten years when none of those picks were in the top five slots. System is obviously broken.

Cleveland never has any luck. Woe is us.
 
Tanking isn’t a result of the lottery system. As we’ve seen, changing that accomplishes nothing.

You switch it to even odds for all teams and guess what? Now, there’s no incentive to make the playoffs if you aren’t a real contender.

Tanking would get even crazier as at least 20 teams fight to NOT make the playoffs.

Tanking is a result of one player having the ability to change the course of a franchise.

Tanking is a result of teams like the Cavs or Thunder or Kings or Pistons having no way to acquire these players except for through the draft.

Solve the imbalance and you solve tanking. Make being a well-run franchise something that gets rewarded.

The problem is, most of the ways to do this is going to cost somebody money, and that’s where it falls apart.

Personally, I think a hard cap and the elimination of max contracts would do wonders for the league.

Would LeBron rather play for $75 million/year in Cleveland or $40 million in LA to team up with AD? I’m not sure, but if players have to start sacrificing significant money to create these superstar team-ups, they might not be so inclined to do so.

Wouldn’t it be nice if the top 30 players in the league were actually spread out among 30 teams?
 
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Just do a redraft of teams every year like a fantasy draft in 2k*. The IPL does something similar and its great.

*this suggestion is 5% serious
 
SoCalCavsFan said:
My idea to eliminate tanking is for there to be a March Madness style tournament for the teams that miss the playoffs, seeded according to their regular-season record. Then, the tournament is played and the teams' draft lottery odds are determined by how they finish in the tournament.

This incentivizes teams to compete and win during the regular season for seeding, and in the tournament to boost their draft lottery odds.

It would also add an element of excitement for the fans of the teams that miss the playoffs.
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I thought about that exact idea of a tournament that included non playoff teams as well......with the winner of the tournament getting the top pick and the other picks going down the order of tournament finish. That would make teams actually play hard to win the top pick!
 
2 For The Brew said:
That was the original lottery system. People thought it was unfair so they weighted it in favor of the worst teams.

There will never be a fair system because, as you said, one player can make such a difference.

Jets fans were pissed they beat the Browns last year and lost out on Trevor Lawrence.
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I guess I'd rather take the unfairness as opposed to incentivizing losing in a competitive sport.

You know they could put in.place some type of protections like one team can't get a top 3 pick a year after they get the 1st pick. Stuff like that.
 
Derek said:
Tanking isn’t a result of the lottery system. As we’ve seen, changing that accomplishes nothing.

You switch it to even odds for all teams and guess what? Now, there’s no incentive to make the playoffs if you aren’t a real contender.

Tanking would get even crazier as at least 20 teams fight to NOT make the playoffs.

Tanking is a result of one player having the ability to change the course of a franchise.

Tanking is a result of teams like the Cavs or Thunder or Kings or Pistons having no way to acquire these players except for through the draft.

Solve the imbalance and you solve tanking. Make being a well-run franchise something that gets rewarded.

The problem is, most of the ways to do this is going to cost somebody money, and that’s where it falls apart.

Personally, I think a hard cap and the elimination of max contracts would do wonders for the league.

Would LeBron rather play for $75 million/year in Cleveland or $40 million in LA to team up with AD? I’m not sure, but if players have to start sacrificing significant money to create these superstar team-ups, they might not be so inclined to do so.

Wouldn’t it be nice if the top 30 players in the league were actually spread out among 30 teams?
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In my world, yes.

But I dunno if that view is shared. If you split up the talent that much, then the product becomes, frankly, less pleasing to the eye for the casual fan. Particularly when watching the best teams.

Offensive production would drop almost assuredly, clearly something the NBA doesn't want to see.

But yea, I'd love if the talent were spread out like that.
 
Rich said:
You know they could put in.place some type of protections like one team can't get a top 3 pick a year after they get the 1st pick. Stuff like that.
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I proved this some time ago in a post:

- If you win the #1 pick overall you are ineligible to be drawn 1-3 for three years.
- If you win the #2 pick you are ineligible to be drawn 1-3 for two years.
- If you win the #3 pick you are ineligible to be drawn 1-3 for one year.
- Any team can refuse the promotion to the top three and go back in order based on record (might do this in a crappy year like 2013).
- These rules apply based on whoever originally had the pick. So if we trade our 2022 pick to the Raptors and we draw the #1 pick this year then the Raptors lose out with our original pick.
- Go back to only three teams drawn in the lottery, not four.
 
With the Pacers beating the Raptors, that guarantees them a 7/8 matchup with the winner of this Washington/Charlotte game

The irony here, is whoever loses this game, gets Boston in a 6/10.

Of the four teams, I would honestly want to play Boston most. Washington has come on strongest, is the only one of the four above .500 and Beal is getting healthy off that gimpy hamstring, so they would be the team to avoid.

If Washington loses today, it's them vs Boston and I believe they can beat them.
 
Similar to Washington figuring out how best to use Brodie and the Beal at the right time before the playoffs, Memphis getting back their 2nd best player JJJ is a recipe for a dangerous playoff team.

The fact that they are playing Golden State right now for the 8th spot without having their 2nd best player for 80% of the year in the West is a testament to Taylor Jenkins.

They are going to be dangerous if they get past the play-in game
 
RchfldCavRaised said:
With the Pacers beating the Raptors, that guarantees them a 7/8 matchup with the winner of this Washington/Charlotte game

The irony here, is whoever loses this game, gets Boston in a 6/10.

Of the four teams, I would honestly want to play Boston most. Washington has come on strongest, is the only one of the four above .500 and Beal is getting healthy off that gimpy hamstring, so they would be the team to avoid.

If Washington loses today, it's them vs Boston and I believe they can beat them.
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I actually just learned this in the past week, but it's not 7v10 and 8v9.

It's 7v8 and 9v10 with the winner of 7v8 being the 7-seed and the winner of 9v10 advancing to play the loser of 7v8 for the 8-seed.
 
Derek said:
I actually just learned this in the past week, but it's not 7v10 and 8v9.

It's 7v8 and 9v10 with the winner of 7v8 being the 7-seed and the winner of 9v10 advancing to play the loser of 7v8 for the 8-seed.
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Thank you for this!

So Washington even though they just won, are going to Boston to beat the Celtics

This is going to be a GREAT game. I've got Brodie and the Beal
 
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