2022 Cleveland Guardians Regular Season Thread

[Mott the Hoople]

I think you can be sellers and still help the big league roster.
When we traded Bauer, Franmil helped immediately.
When we traded Clevinger, Naylor and Hegie helped right away.
When we traded Kluber, Clase would've helped, but he got suspended.

I'd love Wilson Contreras, but he's a rental. So that's a waste of time.
We need a young, controllable 1B, or OF. Somebody like Mountcastle, CJ Cron, Reynolds, or Adolis Garcia.
None of those names would be easy to acquire. But you've got to give something good to get something good.

 

[daddywags]

I agree with being sellers but our 40 man crunch makes it tricky. The only big leaguers I would have off the table are Clase, Gimenez, McKenzie and Naylor. My minor league list is Espino, Williams, Valera and Naylor. I think the smart move is to punt this year and next and set 2024 as go time.

 

[Real Deal]

4 wins in the last 17, Naylor needs to return already so it bumps Miller out of the lineup.

Its just when Oscar returns, what exactly happens... who becomes the 4th OF? Nolan can at least spell Jose at 3rd, so Clement has to go for sure because Miller can take on Clement's backup utility role.

Clement and Mercado shouldn't be around when the team is healthy.

 

[macbdog]

I don't understand us being sellers. We already have a pending 40-man crunch, so unless we're trading for prospects who are years away from Rule 5 eligibility, then we're just adding to the problem.

You do what the Padres did, bundle up the blocked guys and go get a needed player. This team now drafts well and develops talent, which means they can refill the prospect ranks like the Dodgers, Rays, Padres, etc do on a regular basis. Use these extra guys that the team doesn't have time to give try outs to and get what's needed.

 

[Urban]

What premier young talent ever gets traded though?

I'd say pretty frequently, but guessing you have a different definition of premier young talent

 

[xmasbuck]

Corey Kluber?

Fernando Tatis..

the list is endless.. and all traded..

the point was that the major league versions of these guys dont get traded - tatis was 17 when he got traded and played three more years in the minors before getting to san diego - kluber was a nothing special prospect who three years later established himself as a quality major league starter

 

[Gson]

the point was that the major league versions of these guys dont get traded - tatis was 17 when he got traded and played three more years in the minors before getting to san diego - kluber was a nothing special prospect who three years later established himself as a quality major league starter

The point can be made with guys like Seagar and Rizzo and Baez and Schwarber and.. and.. and..

The blanket statement was lacking definition at the very least and inconclusive otherwise..

w/r to your comment.. It takes a special insight to project what so many of these guys would become.. If it was easy.. a 13th round pick out of the city of Peoria may have been selected a lot earlier.. There are clubs that use a means/method/formula/voodoo to arrive at a projection of a player that becomes a star.. Sadly, that path isn't always right..it misses usually about 99.2 % of the time..

..and that's an accurate number...

 

[DCTribefan]

Civale said after the game he decided to stop pitching to the scouting report and just go with his instincts and try to read the batter. It worked really well, although the Royals are not a good hitting team.

Hopefully he can stick with this approach and finish the first half strong and take it right into the second half. I'm not going to go overboard on one good start against a very bad hitting team, but he looked like the pre-injury Civale of last season.

So Civale unilaterally decided to disregard the scouting reports? That cannot make the FO happy.

 

[DCTribefan]

Yeah, I don't ever want to see him in the OF.

If you think you have better/equal DH options internally, like Nolan Jones, Jhonkensy Noel, Josh Naylor, etc--then I get it. But I'm not sure betting on any of them to outperform Franmil's bat is a smart choice.

The only way I'm on board is if they feel the insanely high K% is going to be here to stay--and Franmil's recent hot performance is the outlier.

Except he has always been a streaky hitter. You ride the hot streak than either sit him or put him on the IL.

 

[DCTribefan]

Corey Kluber?

Fernando Tatis..

the list is endless.. and all traded..

Emmanuel Clase.

 

[sportscoach]

So Civale unilaterally decided to disregard the scouting reports? That cannot make the FO happy.

It's not a big deal at all...

 

[Real Deal]

Just curious, but does anybody have the number on how many 7 IP starts we've got through 81 games? The bullpen seems taxed minus Clase. He's a stud.

 

[N7RobBob]

Here is Nolans 1st big league HR

 

[ajz20]

I never understood the " we don't need jones he is not ready crowd" the guy is 24, it felt like like some fans were acting like he was trying to break into the 95 lineup and they wanted to wait until he was 30 with 3 kids.

 

[Obscured By Clouds]

Here is Nolans 1st big league HR

Same, but with Cleveland announcers: