2022 Minor League Thread

[Niklex316]

Thats cool lol. Lets see if he can make a mlb career walking 2 times in 3 months.

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[Niklex316]

Thats cool lol. Lets see if he can make a mlb career walking 2 times in 3 months.

He’s played a lil under half those games played over 3 months. Still hitting .275. Yes walk rate needs to go up, he’s not a perfect prospect. But he’s intriguing and I definitely don’t sit alone with that opinion. I’m also repeating what I saw someone else report this, I’ll have to try and remember who was saying it and link it.

 

[DerekG123]

He’s played a lil under half those games played over 3 months. Still hitting .275. Yes walk rate needs to go up, he’s not a perfect prospect. But he’s intriguing and I definitely don’t sit alone with that opinion. I’m also repeating what I saw someone else report this, I’ll have to try and remember who was saying it and link it.

So if he played all year it would be like 3 or 4 walks? Lol

But yeah he has raw talent but I just cant put no eggs in that basket until he gets that rectified.

 

[Wham with the Right Hand]

Fangraphs has updated their farm rankings. We're #3 behind Tampa (always #1) and Pittsburgh (after a decade of drafting in the top five every year).

Detroit, KC, and Minnesota are in the middle of the pack while the White Sox are 29th.

2022 Top Prospects | THE BOARD | FanGraphs

Compreshensive MLB prospect rankings in a sortable, easy-to-read, feature-rich table.

www.fangraphs.com

 

[Wham with the Right Hand]

The youngest roster in MLB + the 3rd most talented farm system + Hosey and Clase locked up for multiple years + still to come big haul from Bieber trade = Best record in MLB from 2023-2030?

Wild card: Possible loosening of purse strings as new ownership comes on board.

 

[BimboColesHair]

Mentioned him elsewhere about "turning a corner" soon.

Added velo has made his slider plus-plus when its right and he's starting to develop a fringe plus circle change that is generating a lot of swing and misses later in games, especially against lefties.

Went from 89-91 T92 to 93-95 T97, fits in a sinker with good arm-side run and a 4-seemer.

Don't think he is long for Low-A for much longer if the in-game flip has switched.

 

[Wham with the Right Hand]

Fangraphs has updated their farm rankings. We're #3 behind Tampa (always #1) and Pittsburgh (after a decade of drafting in the top five every year).

Detroit, KC, and Minnesota are in the middle of the pack while the White Sox are 29th.

2022 Top Prospects | THE BOARD | FanGraphs

Compreshensive MLB prospect rankings in a sortable, easy-to-read, feature-rich table.

www.fangraphs.com

Breaking down the Fangraphs farm rankings, nobody has any prospects with future values (FV) of 65 or 70. There are 14 players with a FV of 60. No team has two. The Guardians have one; a pitcher (obviously Espino).

There are 14 players with an FV of 55; the G's have none of them. Boston has three.

The G's have five players with an FV of 50, tying Tampa for the most in this category. They are all non-pitchers (Rocchio, Arias, Jones, Valera, and Freeman). We have some bats coming, thank goodness.

Of the 13 prospects the Guardians have with an FV of 45 or higher, 10 are position players. But in the 35+, 40, and 40+ categories we have 21 pitchers to 13 non-pitchers. It seems we have quality off the mound (5 of the 6 highest ranked players are non-pitchers) with more quantity at pitching (21 of 34 mid-range prospects are pitchers).

So it's up to the pitching factory to turn all those 35+ to 45+ arms into the next Biebers (or a reasonable facsimile).

 

[Wham with the Right Hand]

For some reason Fangraphs has Bo Naylor ranked 27th among Cleveland prospects.

Their #1 overall prospect is the Tigers' Riley Greene, who we will see this weekend. He was 4-for-19 against us in the last series.

 

[DickyLeftridge]

15 TATERS and 15 SBs now. Look at this MOON SHOT. Slanging BOMBs. Bring him up already? Kudos to Alex Call for his cup of coffee which is deserved, but after the All Star Break, bring this kid up.

And no I don't give a flying flip that he bats LH and Call RH. He's the new RH/LH combo in Center with Straw.

MOON SHOT

 

[Wham with the Right Hand]

Fangraphs had this comment about their updated farm rankings:

Based on where they are on the current rankings, how much draft capital they have, and their pre-deadline posture as sellers, I’d guess that Baltimore, Pittsburgh, and Arizona will be the top three systems after the trade deadline, with Cincinnati a dark horse candidate to climb into that area if they get a huge haul for Luis Castillo. I’d consider some of the teams who have among the most listed prospects and who also have a strong developmental track record — such as the Dodgers, Red Sox and Guardians — to reinsert themselves into that top tier within the next year, just through the sheer volume of opportunities they have to make players better.

"Sheer volume" of good prospects + "a strong developmental track record" bodes very well for the future of this organization.

 

[DickyLeftridge]

Fangraphs had this comment about their updated farm rankings:

Based on where they are on the current rankings, how much draft capital they have, and their pre-deadline posture as sellers, I’d guess that Baltimore, Pittsburgh, and Arizona will be the top three systems after the trade deadline, with Cincinnati a dark horse candidate to climb into that area if they get a huge haul for Luis Castillo. I’d consider some of the teams who have among the most listed prospects and who also have a strong developmental track record — such as the Dodgers, Red Sox and Guardians — to reinsert themselves into that top tier within the next year, just through the sheer volume of opportunities they have to make players better.

"Sheer volume" of good prospects + "a strong developmental track record" bodes very well for the future of this organization.

Good stuff. Not sure if you saw, but Kiley McDaniel had Guardians as the #1 Farm System in his Insider draft article. Excerpt below.

Cleveland Guardians​

First 2022 MLB draft pick: No. 16 overall

Where their farm system ranks: No. 1 ($300 million)

Biggest system strengths: Potential every-day hitters

Biggest system needs: Left-handed pitching

How they typically draft: Lean to upside at higher picks and then take seemingly boring college arms one after another -- and a few of them will immediately gain 3 mph in pro ball for some reason.

Best fits: Cooper Hjerpe fits the trendy low slot/not a sinker-with-feel type that Cleveland is on board with drafting. The high-contact hitters like Zach Neto and Drew Gilbert also fit. On the upside end of things, Cole Young and Jett Williams also fit.

Past five first-round picks: RHP Gavin Williams (2021); SS Carson Tucker (2020); RHP Daniel Espino (2019); C Bo Naylor (2018); RHP Ethan Hankins (2018)

 

[BimboColesHair]

How they typically draft: Lean to upside at higher picks and then take seemingly boring college arms one after another -- and a few of them will immediately gain 3 mph in pro ball for some reason.

 

[DickyLeftridge]

So as among the 2021 crop of pitchers, can you rank them into tiers with maybe MLB examples as the tiering clusters? In other words, who projects as FOR/BieGOAT tier, who projects as a Civale MOR or meh tier, and who projects as a Plutko 6th starter type tier?

Williams
Nikhazy
Mace
Bibee
Davenport
Leftwich
GOAT NAME Rodney Boone
Dion
Denholm
Johnston
Jake Miller

 

[Obscured By Clouds]

Breaking down the Fangraphs farm rankings, nobody has any prospects with future values (FV) of 65 or 70. There are 14 players with a FV of 60. No team has two. The Guardians have one; a pitcher (obviously Espino).

There are 14 players with an FV of 55; the G's have none of them. Boston has three.

The G's have five players with an FV of 50, tying Tampa for the most in this category. They are all non-pitchers (Rocchio, Arias, Jones, Valera, and Freeman). We have some bats coming, thank goodness.

Of the 13 prospects the Guardians have with an FV of 45 or higher, 10 are position players. But in the 35+, 40, and 40+ categories we have 21 pitchers to 13 non-pitchers. It seems we have quality off the mound (5 of the 6 highest ranked players are non-pitchers) with more quantity at pitching (21 of 34 mid-range prospects are pitchers).

So it's up to the pitching factory to turn all those 35+ to 45+ arms into the next Biebers (or a reasonable facsimile).

Should be noted Baltimore's Rutschman is a FV70 that was called up like 6 weeks ago.

 

[Obscured By Clouds]

For some reason Fangraphs has Bo Naylor ranked 27th among Cleveland prospects.

Their #1 overall prospect is the Tigers' Riley Greene, who we will see this weekend. He was 4-for-19 against us in the last series.

They did the Guardians in April, before his bounce back season.