2022 Season | Series #42 | Mariners @ Guardians | Sep. 2-4, 2022

[KluberSociety]

"Slump"

Over 1/3 of his career ABs are in this season where he's put up a .520 OPS. This is who he is at this point. The calls for patience are curious considering we've been watching this since April.

The most pathetic part about this Myles Straw debacle on here is how people only insist on further digging in. Tell the truth. He was a mistake. You oversold his talent. He doesn't deserve to be anywhere near the MLB roster. I was a Bobby Bradley fan. Watch this. That was a mistake. I over-estimated his talent. He doesn't deserve to be anywhere near this MLB roster.

Just doubling down, doubling down in the face of the worst season in 32 years of Major League Baseball. Re-evaluate your lives people. Is "winning" an argument on this website worth sounding like such a completely unreasonable, selfish, crazy person?

I guess so.

"Slump." Lies after lies after lies.

I don't even think he should be playing every day but he does have a strong place on a MLB roster, and yes it is a slump. His xwOBA is 32 points higher than his wOBA so even in this season where he's been making worse quality contact, a lot of his struggles can be attributed to luck. Without the luck he'd be more of a 3rd/4th OF on an average team and probably more like 4th OF with the way he's been trending lately. Toronto has both Jackie Bradley Jr. and Bradley Zimmer on the same roster pretty much for OF defense alone and I'm not going to make you appreciate MUH PLUTONIUM GLOVE or whatever you sarcastically call it, but by objective measures he's been the best defensive outfielder in baseball over the last 2 years.

I'm calculating an estimate of his wRC+ at 74 rather than 52 with a luck adjustment. Definitely not ideal and still #9 hitter territory but I don't see a legitimate argument against the current approach which is: give him significant days off hoping that either he or Benson will show something, and then if we somehow make the playoffs, hopefully figuring out who we'd rather put forward. For all the hate he's getting he still has 0.8 fWAR this year which is still significantly above what a "replacement" option might be.

Anyway though, most of your attacks are pure straw man attacks and then you also make these silly assertions about the Myles Straw pandemic causing the rest of the offense to suck, too. Thankfully, most of us just don't care to echo your kind of behavior or you could be hit pretty hard for dumb comments like that.

 

[Real Deal]

Let the guy vent until he's tired and shuts down his thoughts. That goes for anyone that wants to vent, or counter the venting, negativity, positivity, whatever. If you choose to enter the vortex that's on you, there's an ignore feature for a legitmate reason. I know I shit post here, I'm invested into the team and complain about things when invested, kinda like the average fan. Thats what this place is here for, that's what people continue to come back for. Some fans are more even keeled, accept whatever is thrown at them (Myles Straw). Some fans are like fuck, fuck, fuck that, fuck this, fuck. Then there's Dicky beating a dead horse, let the fan be a fan. It's all fandom in the end. Dicky I'm happy you wake up everyday and come here, it let's me know you're alive and well.

 

[DCTribefan]

Well, two we won, two we lost in extra innings, and two we lost by a combined score of 10-1 were started by emergency pitchers straight from AAA who likely won't be pitching in the playoffs. Just some perspective.

You have to make the playoffs first.

 

[DickyLeftridge]

Let the guy vent until he's tired and shuts down his thoughts. That goes for anyone that wants to vent, or counter the venting, negativity, positivity, whatever. If you choose to enter the vortex that's on you, there's an ignore feature for a legitmate reason. I know I shit post here, I'm invested into the team and complain about things when invested, kinda like the average fan. Thats what this place is here for, that's what people continue to come back for. Some fans are more even keeled, accept whatever is thrown at them (Myles Straw). Some fans are like fuck, fuck, fuck that, fuck this, fuck. Then there's Dicky beating a dead horse, let the fan be a fan. It's all fandom in the end. Dicky I'm happy you wake up everyday and come here, it let's me know you're alive and well.

So insulting. The horse isn't dead. There's 20 people on here who insist the horse is still hitting .300. But whatever allows you to remain accepted by your eBros.

 

[TxBuckeye]

The summary goes beyond that. It goes beyond Myles Straw. Dissent is not tolerated on here. It is an echo chamber. That's why 75% of this website changed their profile pictures to the worst hitter in 32 years--because you're not allowed to say on this website that he's anything other than an asset.

That's why I get called Reno--repetitive personal attacks that were explicitly denounced by a mod last year. Because apparently that was the only other person this echo chamber has ever interacted with who didn't co-sign whatever the prevailing sentiment group think was on this site. I'm the 2nd person to ever disagree with the mob. So I must logically be literally the reincarnation of the 1st person to disagree with the mob.

If you people can't own up to Straw being a disaster, what can you own up to? He's literally the worst hitter since 1990. Do you think there are Myles Straw fans anywhere else other than this remote corner of the internet? I got news for you, there aren't. And the only reason you people exist in such high density here is because you've created an incestuous echo chamber where you reinforce each other's ridiculous ideas and stomp out any thought to the contrary under the guise of it just being "Reno."

Imagine living in a world where the only person to ever disagree with you was Reno. Imagine that. Thankfully, you've got a handful of people on this website who consistently and openly admit that's how they view the world--that the only people to ever disagree with them must be Reno @TxBuckeye @DCTribefan--so you don't have to imagine it. You can watch it in real time.

75% of this board changed their pic to irritate you Dick. And I'm not sure what you think you are disagreeing with me, or the majority of the board for that matter on. Everybody sees what is going on and freely admits Straw is having a bad year. I know this is obviously hard for you to grasp but there isn't a plug n play solution to the problem right now. That is an issue for spring training in about 6 months. Anyway carry on bub,

 

[DCTribefan]

Meanwhile, Twins are losing 5-2 in the 8th at their little house horrors also known as Yankee Stadium.

 

[DickyLeftridge]

75% of this board changed their pic to irritate you Dick. And I'm not sure what you think you are disagreeing with me, or the majority of the board for that matter on. Everybody sees what is going on and freely admits Straw is having a bad year. I know this is obviously hard for you to grasp but there isn't a plug n play solution to the problem right now. That is an issue for spring training in about 6 months. Anyway carry on bub,

75% of this board would be incapable of putting its clothes on if at least 75% of the board didn't approve of the day's dress code.

The concept that there isn't a "plug n play solution" to the worst hitter in 30 years is laughable on its face. You put Shane Bieber in the 9 spot every day and he'd do better than .196 and a .520 OPS.

I'm Reno.

 

[TxBuckeye]

I'm Reno.

No shit

 

[Benway]

Sometimes I just have no clue what is happening around here.

 

[sportscoach]

75% of this board would be incapable of putting its clothes on if at least 75% of the board didn't approve of the day's dress code.

The concept that there isn't a "plug n play solution" to the worst hitter in 30 years is laughable on its face. You put Shane Bieber in the 9 spot every day and he'd do better than .196 and a .520 OPS.

I'm Reno.

Actually Plesac would end up being probably the best batter of the pitchers... Gose probably could still hit and run some if healthy. He could probably play some OF still...

@Wham with the Right Hand @The Human Q-Tip

We are trying to be nice to Dicky, but he isnt giving up here. It's kind of going a bit too far. I want no one censored, but it isn't easy dealing with this at all...

Sometimes I just have no clue what is happening around here.

Someone finally lost their cool and has to be heard...

 

[MadThinker88]

No shit

And Reno was BANNED from these boards before the group migrated over from IBI.
That was a big reason why we landed here.. Active moderators that stopped massive trolling from ruining a good thing.

 

[TxBuckeye]

And Reno was BANNED from these boards before the group migrated over from IBI.
That was a big reason why we landed here.. Active moderators that stopped massive trolling from ruining a good thing.

He may not be Reno but he's Reno

 

[DickyLeftridge]

Dissent = "trolling" and the maudes have been called in.

"I want no one censored............but you better censor this guy."

These aren't serious people.

 

[MadThinker88]

Dissent = "trolling" and the maudes have been called in.

"I want no one censored............but you better censor this guy."

These aren't serious people.

There is a difference between dissent and trolling. One can recognize that difference if they are truly open to discussion. When someone doesn't see or understand that difference line, they are a being troll.

 

[Benway]

And then there's Maude!

(Geezer alert)