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2023 Season | Series #22 | Guardians @ Padres | June 13-15, 2023

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The rapidly reviving Guardians head west to take on the San Diego Padres, who are in 4th place in the N.L. West despite a $200 million payroll. Both teams are 31-34, but are going in opposite directions. The Padres peaked at 18-15 but have since gone 13-19. The Guardians have won 8 of their last 13, all against teams .500 or better.

The Padres are 15-18 at home, 5-9 against the American League, and 19-24 against right-handed starters. That describes the Guardians in two of the three games. They Pads are 12-10 against lefties so the Thursday game that Logan Allen will start might be the most challenging.

The Padres are hitting just .216/.682 against RHP’s versus .253/.767 against lefties. They average just 4.0 runs per game at home against 4.4 on the road, so they are most vulnerable against RHP’s at home. I don’t expect a big scoring outburst, at least against Bibee and Civale.

Petco Park ranks 29th of 30 in park factor, meaning it’s the second most pitcher friendly park in baseball over the last three years. This year it’s the toughest park to score runs in - the run factor is 83 with 100 being average.

Petco is the most extreme pitcher's park in baseball today, an arrangement that favors San Diego pitchers and frustrates visiting power hitters. While center field is only 396 feet from home plate, the 'power alleys' of left-center and right-center are even further at 402 feet, while the left and right field lines are 334 and 322 feet, respectively. - parkfactors.com

This has all the earmarks of a low scoring series. However, the Guardians hit better on the road (4.3 runs per game against 3.4 at home), so they may be able to scratch some runs together. They are averaging 5.0 runs over their last 10 games.

As a team the Padres are below average in on-base percentage, slugging percentage, and OPS. They are 28th in batting average but 2nd in walks per game at just over four. Despite a team batting average of .228 opposing pitchers fear them. They have six hitters who are 6'2", 215 pounds or larger. This is not a team you want to get in a fight with.

It seems odd that they spent so much money on right-handed power hitters when they play in one of the toughest parks to homer in. The Guardians have a pretty fast group of outfielders and that could be to their advantage in a park with a ton of space in the outfield. I would advise them to play deep and not let anything get over their heads. If they give up a bloop, fine. Those big boys don't run very well on the bases.

I'm counting on Amed for at least one triple in this park.

The Pads are 28th in BABIP, suggesting they make a lot of weak contact and don’t get many infield hits. Fangraphs ranks them 23rd in team speed. They have some big, right-handed power hitters like Manny Machado, Xander Bogaerts, Fernando Tatis Jr, and Nelson Cruz that don’t leg out many hits. The key is to avoid walks and home runs. They don’t hit for a high average and they don’t have a lot of speed (50 SB in 65 games). They depend on walks and power hitting to score.

The Padres have some big money sluggers on their roster, including Tatis, Soto, Machado, Bogaerts, and 42-year-old Nelson Cruz. Despite the big names they rank 22nd in runs per game, but a big part of that is their ball park. They are 10th in runs per game on the road but 28th at home, which shows how big the park factor is at Petco.

The Padres’ pitching staff ranks 8th in ERA, 6th in WHIP, but 15th in FIP, suggesting they get a lot of help from their defense. In fact, Fangraphs ranks them 8th defensively. Their home ERA is 3.48 against 4.09 on the road.

Their best hitter at Petco this year has been Tatis (.295/.910), followed by Soto (.246/.824) and Bogaerts (.274/.775). Tatis has 7 home runs in 20 games at home; nobody else has more than four, and they've played 33 home games.

The Padres will send three veteran right-handers against the Guardians, starting with 30-year-old Joe Musgrove (3-2, 4.35). In four starts at Petco Musgrove has an ERA of 5.89. However, in his last three starts he has only allowed two earned runs over 17.1 innings. Batters hit .351 against him in April, .247 in May, and .184 so far in June. Musgrove has an extreme reverse split as lefties are hitting just .211/.624 off him against .311/.863 for righties. That’s a difference of almost 340 points of OPS.

Josh Bell is 5-for-8 against Musgrove.

Tanner Bibee leads it off for the Guardians. Bibee has been outstanding, allowing two runs or fewer in six of his eight starts. His ERA is 3.05 and batters are hitting .230/.620 off him. He has allowed just three home runs in eight starts - all solo shots. Opponents are 1-for-14 against him with RISP and two out.

Bibee’s only significant vulnerability has been facing batters for the third time. They’re hitting .303/.818 the third time through the order.

Game 2 will be Civale against Michael Wacha (6-2, 3.18), who has allowed five runs in his last seven starts. Game 3 will be Logan Allen against Yu Darvish, who has a home ERA of 2.68.

Everything points to a low scoring series. Both teams have great starting pitching and they’re playing in the most difficult park in the majors to score. The Guardians have been winning lately while the Padres are 13-19 in their last 32 games, so the Guardians are playing better at the moment. It could come down to who can hit a home run or who makes an error at a critical time.

This is probably a pivotal series between two disappointing teams. The Guardians are coming off a 92-win season in which they were the youngest team in the majors. After 65 games they're still below water. The Padres are the opposite of the Guardians; old and expensive. Their starting pitchers are 36 (Darvish), 32, 31, 30, and 30. Their catchers are 33 and 30. Bogaerts and Machado are 30 and DH Matt Carpenter is 37. The Padres have four players making $20-25 million and three more making $14-17 million. They were funded to compete with the Dodgers but are 9.5 games back and are sinking in the West.

The Guardians are trying to build on the little bit of momentum they've established while the Padres are trying to turn it around before it's too late.
 
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I don't get the Padres. All that money and they spend it on home run hitters when they play in a park with 402-foot power alleys. Juan Soto has 4 home runs in 33 games in Petco; Machado has 3 in 27 games and Boegaerts 4 in 28.

Nelson Cruz is 42 and can't run. He needs to be playing in Fenway.

This park screams for a team built on speed, on-base percentage, and manufacturing runs. The Guardians would probably do really well here. They have the speed in the outfield to cover all that space and the deep fences won't affect them because they don't hit home runs even in smaller parks. Myles Straw was made for this park. Rosario would set some kind of record for triples.

It's hard to believe the Padres have just two triples at home this year in over 1,000 at-bats. Well, they have a lot of slow, right-handed hitters, which is why their BABIP is ranked 28th. They probably hit a lot of 390-foot fly balls that get caught.

Now that I look at it, the Padres have just five more home runs on the road than at home in one less game. They're not hitting many on the road, either. You'd think a team with Soto, Machado, Tatis, and Boegaerts would have more than 40 home runs in 32 road games. The Padres are not getting their money's worth from most of these guys.
 
This series marks the homecoming of Josh Naylor, Gabriel Arias, and Cal Quantrill to the team that traded them to the Indians for Mike Clevinger. However, Quantrill is injured and Naylor is day-to-day. Clevinger, of course, is long gone after going 9-8 for the Padres in a little over two seasons, one of which was spent getting TJ surgery.
 
Just saw this in The Athletic:

The Padres are hard to grasp. They’ve spent hundreds of millions on a team loaded with premier offense. They rank 23rd in OPS and 19th in on-base percentage. They still have a +19 run differential, which is encouraging, but it’s not good enough in one of baseball’s best divisions. They’re 9.5 games back in the division and 2.5 back of the second Wild Card spot. As the trade deadline approaches, don’t be fooled: They need a good stretch sooner rather than later.
 
Going to the West coast is always a big challenge. Its esp tough for a young team. Winning on the West coast is money in the bank.

We handled those trips well last year.

Our first trip early in the season began disastrously, when we ran into a buzz saw in Anaheim, who began the season as the highest scoring team in the NL. They swept us in four, but we bounced back to win 4 of 5 vs Oakland and SD.

The next time out we went 7-2, including 2-1 vs the Dodgers, which IMO was one of the series that showed we could play with anybody.

The last trip we went 3-3 vs SD and Seattle.

In contrast, Minnesota struggled out west.

In the first trip, the Twins went 2-1 vs Oakland, and later 3-3 vs Seattle and Arizona. But in what may have been the turning point of the season, they went 1-4 against the Dodgers and Angels. When they left for LA, they were a game up. When they returned, they were 2.5 back.

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We were 5-2 as we opened this season out west vs Seattle and Oakland.

Minnesota is 2-4 so far in games played at Anaheim and LA.
 
I don't get the Padres. All that money and they spend it on home run hitters when they play in a park with 402-foot power alleys. Juan Soto has 4 home runs in 33 games in Petco; Machado has 3 in 27 games and Boegaerts 4 in 28.

Nelson Cruz is 42 and can't run. He needs to be playing in Fenway.

This park screams for a team built on speed, on-base percentage, and manufacturing runs. The Guardians would probably do really well here. They have the speed in the outfield to cover all that space and the deep fences won't affect them because they don't hit home runs even in smaller parks. Myles Straw was made for this park. Rosario would set some kind of record for triples.

It's hard to believe the Padres have just two triples at home this year in over 1,000 at-bats. Well, they have a lot of slow, right-handed hitters, which is why their BABIP is ranked 28th. They probably hit a lot of 390-foot fly balls that get caught.

Now that I look at it, the Padres have just five more home runs on the road than at home in one less game. They're not hitting many on the road, either. You'd think a team with Soto, Machado, Tatis, and Boegaerts would have more than 40 home runs in 32 road games. The Padres are not getting their money's worth from most of these guys.
And everyone was applauding them for giving away all that young talent like candy to go all in. They are the example of how *not* to build a roster.
 
And everyone was applauding them for giving away all that young talent like candy to go all in. They are the example of how *not* to build a roster.
So you're saying the Padres would have interest in Rosario and Straw! You just turned my dreary, rainy day into sunshine and rainbows of hope. I love you!
 
So you're saying the Padres would have interest in Rosario and Straw! You just turned my dreary, rainy day into sunshine and rainbows of hope. I love you!
They want to wash your car and clean out your gutters, too...
 
I don't get the Padres. All that money and they spend it on home run hitters when they play in a park with 402-foot power alleys. Juan Soto has 4 home runs in 33 games in Petco; Machado has 3 in 27 games and Boegaerts 4 in 28.

Nelson Cruz is 42 and can't run. He needs to be playing in Fenway.

This park screams for a team built on speed, on-base percentage, and manufacturing runs. The Guardians would probably do really well here. They have the speed in the outfield to cover all that space and the deep fences won't affect them because they don't hit home runs even in smaller parks. Myles Straw was made for this park. Rosario would set some kind of record for triples.
Ah! That brought back memories. Lofton had 13 triples in 1995 to go with 22 doubles.

Here are the major league leaders in triples:

RankPlayer (age that year)TriplesYearPABats
1.Owen Wilson (28)361912643L
2.Dave Orr (26)311886593R
Henry Reitz (27)311894502L
4.Perry Werden (31)291893556R
5.Harry Davis (23)281897475R
Sam Thompson+ (34)281894502L
7.George Davis+ (22)271893600B
Jimmy Williams (22)271899693R
9.Sam Crawford+ (34)261914674L
Kiki Cuyler+ (26)261925701R
Shoeless Joe Jackson (24)261912653L
John Reilly (31)261890576R
George Treadway (27)261894569L
 
Padres roster feels like some video game construction but in real life you have egos, personalities, and team chemistry.

plus you have to build a team and not just hit a button to hit home runs.
 
The rapidly reviving Guardians head west to take on the San Diego Padres, who are in 4th place in the N.L. West despite a $200 million payroll. Both teams are 31-34, but are going in opposite directions. The Padres peaked at 18-15 but have since gone 13-19. The Guardians have won 8 of their last 13, all against teams .500 or better.

The Padres are 15-18 at home, 5-9 against the American League, and 19-24 against right-handed starters. That describes the Guardians in two of the three games. They Pads are 12-10 against lefties so the Thursday game that Logan Allen will start might be the most challenging.

The Padres are hitting just .216/.682 against RHP’s versus .253/.767 against lefties. They average just 4.0 runs per game at home against 4.4 on the road, so they are most vulnerable against RHP’s at home. I don’t expect a big scoring outburst, at least against Bibee and Civale.

Petco Park ranks 29th of 30 in park factor, meaning it’s the second most pitcher friendly park in baseball over the last three years. This year it’s the toughest park to score runs in - the run factor is 83 with 100 being average.

Petco is the most extreme pitcher's park in baseball today, an arrangement that favors San Diego pitchers and frustrates visiting power hitters. While center field is only 396 feet from home plate, the 'power alleys' of left-center and right-center are even further at 402 feet, while the left and right field lines are 334 and 322 feet, respectively. - parkfactors.com

This has all the earmarks of a low scoring series. However, the Guardians hit better on the road (4.3 runs per game against 3.4 at home), so they may be able to scratch some runs together. They are averaging 5.0 runs over their last 10 games.

As a team the Padres are below average in on-base percentage, slugging percentage, and OPS. They are 28th in batting average but 2nd in walks per game at just over four. Despite a team batting average of .228 opposing pitchers fear them. They have six hitters who are 6'2", 215 pounds or larger. This is not a team you want to get in a fight with.

It seems odd that they spent so much money on right-handed power hitters when they play in one of the toughest parks to homer in. The Guardians have a pretty fast group of outfielders and that could be to their advantage in a park with a ton of space in the outfield. I would advise them to play deep and not let anything get over their heads. If they give up a bloop, fine. Those big boys don't run very well on the bases.

I'm counting on Amed for at least one triple in this park.

The Pads are 28th in BABIP, suggesting they make a lot of weak contact and don’t get many infield hits. Fangraphs ranks them 23rd in team speed. They have some big, right-handed power hitters like Manny Machado, Xander Bogaerts, Fernando Tatis Jr, and Nelson Cruz that don’t leg out many hits. The key is to avoid walks and home runs. They don’t hit for a high average and they don’t have a lot of speed (50 SB in 65 games). They depend on walks and power hitting to score.

The Padres have some big money sluggers on their roster, including Tatis, Soto, Machado, Bogaerts, and 42-year-old Nelson Cruz. Despite the big names they rank 22nd in runs per game, but a big part of that is their ball park. They are 10th in runs per game on the road but 28th at home, which shows how big the park factor is at Petco.

The Padres’ pitching staff ranks 8th in ERA, 6th in WHIP, but 15th in FIP, suggesting they get a lot of help from their defense. In fact, Fangraphs ranks them 8th defensively. Their home ERA is 3.48 against 4.09 on the road.

Their best hitter at Petco this year has been Tatis (.295/.910), followed by Soto (.246/.824) and Bogaerts (.274/.775). Tatis has 7 home runs in 20 games at home; nobody else has more than four, and they've played 33 home games.

The Padres will send three veteran right-handers against the Guardians, starting with 30-year-old Joe Musgrove (3-2, 4.35). In four starts at Petco Musgrove has an ERA of 5.89. However, in his last three starts he has only allowed two earned runs over 17.1 innings. Batters hit .351 against him in April, .247 in May, and .184 so far in June. Musgrove has an extreme reverse split as lefties are hitting just .211/.624 off him against .311/.863 for righties. That’s a difference of almost 340 points of OPS.

Josh Bell is 5-for-8 against Musgrove.

Tanner Bibee leads it off for the Guardians. Bibee has been outstanding, allowing two runs or fewer in six of his eight starts. His ERA is 3.05 and batters are hitting .230/.620 off him. He has allowed just three home runs in eight starts - all solo shots. Opponents are 1-for-14 against him with RISP and two out.

Bibee’s only significant vulnerability has been facing batters for the third time. They’re hitting .303/.818 the third time through the order.

Game 2 will be Civale against Michael Wacha (6-2, 3.18), who has allowed five runs in his last seven starts. Game 3 will be Logan Allen against Yu Darvish, who has a home ERA of 2.68.

Everything points to a low scoring series. Both teams have great starting pitching and they’re playing in the most difficult park in the majors to score. The Guardians have been winning lately while the Padres are 13-19 in their last 32 games, so the Guardians are playing better at the moment. It could come down to who can hit a home run or who makes an error at a critical time.

This is probably a pivotal series between two disappointing teams. The Guardians are coming off a 92-win season in which they were the youngest team in the majors. After 65 games they're still below water. The Padres are the opposite of the Guardians; old and expensive. Their starting pitchers are 36 (Darvish), 32, 31, 30, and 30. Their catchers are 33 and 30. Bogaerts and Machado are 30 and DH Matt Carpenter is 37. The Padres have four players making $20-25 million and three more making $14-17 million. They were funded to compete with the Dodgers but are 9.5 games back and are sinking in the West.

The Guardians are trying to build on the little bit of momentum they've established while the Padres are trying to turn it around before it's too late.
Who is underperforming, for the Pads, such that the $200 mil is basically being wasted?
 

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