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I went back thru the Shapiro years to see what kind of SP reclamation success he had.This is PovertyBall, bro: you can't build a 5 man rotation in a tight window without some filler. I mean, if they can assemble a Kluber, Cookie, Bauer, Clevinger rotation again, awesome! But in a more likely scenario, you have to settle for a couple serviceable guys around the Bibees and Biebers and Tugboats. Hell, we watched the 2016 team almost win the whole fucking thing with Lil Cowboy Josh Tomlin getting the 2nd most starts on the team. This legacy front office finally figured out how to draft; now they need to look back into the ancient texts and find the old reclamation spells that got Shapiro through his years here to add to their spell book.
I went back thru the Shapiro years to see what kind of SP reclamation success he had.
Here is a list of many of those projects.
Jason Phillips
Jason Bere
Scott Elarton
Joe Dawley
Jason Johnson
Matt Ginter
Bryan Bullington
Carl Pavano
Justin Germano
Derek Lowe
Brett Myers
Shaun Marcum
Bruce Chen
Jeff Damico
The only one of those that could possibly be construed as a success is Elarton, who did have a so so one+ years here.
Pavano and Lowe gave us 21 crummy starts each, before we dumped them.
I dont think that Millwood and Kazmir can be considered reclamation projects. They were both here on short term contracts in order to rebuild value after injuries.
If Lively continues to be productive over a long stretch, he will be the first such success story for Cleveland in this millenium.
And your point is what? Should we petition MLB to take the run away? LMFAOCleveland credited with only 2 earned runs scored but really only one was earned. Dumb baseball scoring rule says can never assume a double play. Sorry, but Fry's second inning smash to the third baseman would have been a double play.
RocchioSS | S | 0 | 5 | 6 | .223 | .620 |
Gimenez2B | L | 1 | 19 | 5 | .255 | .668 |
Ramírez, Jo3B | S | 7 | 30 | 5 | .238 | .718 |
Naylor, J1B | L | 9 | 28 | 2 | .270 | .901 |
FryLF | R | 2 | 10 | 1 | .316 | .929 |
BrennanRF | L | 4 | 14 | 2 | .240 | .697 |
Naylor, BC | L | 3 | 9 | 1 | .176 | .558 |
Freeman, TCF | R | 3 | 12 | 4 | .194 | .618 |
ManzardoDH | L | 0 | 0 | 0 | .125 | .250 |
Look who has worked to top of lineup
RocchioSS S 0 5 6 .223 .620 Gimenez2B L 1 19 5 .255 .668 Ramírez, Jo3B S 7 30 5 .238 .718 Naylor, J1B L 9 28 2 .270 .901 FryLF R 2 10 1 .316 .929 BrennanRF L 4 14 2 .240 .697 Naylor, BC L 3 9 1 .176 .558 Freeman, TCF R 3 12 4 .194 .618 ManzardoDH L 0 0 0 .125 .250
Maton and Manship weren't starters.I think you aren't including Maton and Manship...
Cleveland has helped a lot of pitchers...
Rocchio makes sense in the short term at least.Look who has worked to top of lineup
RocchioSS S 0 5 6 .223 .620 Gimenez2B L 1 19 5 .255 .668 Ramírez, Jo3B S 7 30 5 .238 .718 Naylor, J1B L 9 28 2 .270 .901 FryLF R 2 10 1 .316 .929 BrennanRF L 4 14 2 .240 .697 Naylor, BC L 3 9 1 .176 .558 Freeman, TCF R 3 12 4 .194 .618 ManzardoDH L 0 0 0 .125 .250
It’s the current ‘right nine’Look who is again in the 5 hole against a RH pitcher...
My point pretty clear. Sorry you cant follow it. You have anything worthwhile to complain about?And your point is what? Should we petition MLB to take the run away? LMFAO
I will as soon as you make your first worthwhile post regarding anything.My point pretty clear. Sorry you cant follow it. You have anything worthwhile to complain about?
What ? A little butthurt because your brother was banned here permanently I see. You should be permanently banned as well.I will as soon as you make your first worthwhile post regarding anything.