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He said really quickly that a main reason that Redd turned downt the Cavaliers was that Lebron and Gilbert were not there during the wining and dining process. He got the high powered trio of Ferry, Mike Brown and Eric Snow. It seems that Redd thought he got the second class citizen treatment and if the team really wanted him, then the big 2 would have been there to show him around the town.
 
That sucks but I'm happy with Hughes he is more rounded we dont need to pay 70 million for a 3 point shooter. Hughes brings more to the table..
 
im happy with hughes but i wish that lebron would have been there D:<
 
This should destroy any chances of him mentioning us not getting Redd since he just pretty much said LeBron: The effort wasn't there...
 
That is a rather petty excuse. Why does the owner need to be there? Obviously he is wanted otherwise we wouldn't have offered him the maximum availbale. Anyways....
 
i caught that too-- and i'm sure mike carins is on top of it all :rolleyes:

our local sportscasters are a joke, i find it funny that they will report something that was brought up on this site 4 days earlier then when they report it.

they finally got around to mentioning that the cavs were interested in haslem- i'm pretty sure that it was closing in on the 48 hour mark here on rcf.

but we have to make sure we focus in on that 15 year old female golfer :mad: that's what us locals want to hear about ;)
 
yeah or kenny rogers pushing over a camera man...or the jeter snub...or the tour de boring...
 
we need karma as our local sportscaster

he would be broadcasted at the same time on all the channels- he could do it from his local bar.

his lead in music would be some deep breaking news theme
and it would go something on the line of

INDIANS are in the wildcard race

BROWNS still have orange helmets

now to the meat and potatoes mates "ZYDRUNAS ILGAUSKAS"

critical situation here, if this doesn't get done, he are $#@^&* ( KARMA is now OFF the AIR, due to fcc regulations and the usage of the f word)

but to sum up-- study all this- there will be a karma quiz later.

Zydrunas Ilgauskas | 11

2004-05
Statistics
PPG 16.9
RPG 8.60
APG 1.3
EFF + 19.19

Position: C
Born: Jun 5, 1975
Height: 7-3 / 2,21
Weight: 260 lbs. / 117,9 kg.
From : Lithuania

Career Highlights
Selected to the 1997-98 Schick All-Rookie First Team
Ranked 2nd among rookies in 1997-98 in rebounds (8.8 rpg), field-goal percentage (.518) and double-doubles (35), 3rd in blocked shots (1.65 bpg) and 4th in scoring (13.9 ppg)
Led the Cavaliers in 1997-98 in field-goal percentage and blocked shots, ranked 2nd in reobunds and 3rd in scoring
Named MVP of the Schick Rookie Game, totaling a game-high 18 points and 7 rebounds, during the 1998 NBA All-Star Weekend in New York
Recorded a rookie season-high 32 points (12-14 FG, 8-9 FT) and 13 rebounds against the Detroit Pistons on 1/31/98
Posted 16 points and 16 rebounds, in his NBA debut, against the Houston Rockets on 10/31/97
Missed the entire 1996-97 season after undergoing surgery on his right foot
Averaged 20.3 ppg, 12.8 rpg and 2.8 bpg in 30.3 mpg for the Atletas Basketball Club in Kaunas, Lithuania, in 1994-95

2004-05 Statistics
REBOUNDS PER GAME
Team G GS MPG FGM-A FG% 3PM-A 3P% FTM-A FT% OFF DEF TOT APG SPG BPG TO PF PPG
CLE 78 78 33.5 458-979 .468 2-7 .286 402-503 .799 3.80 4.80 8.60 1.3 .68 2.12 2.45 4.00 16.9


Ranks #19 in the NBA in Rebounds Per Game(8.6) Ranks #8 in the NBA in Blocks Per Game(2.12)
Ranks #17 in the NBA in Free Throws(402.0) Ranks #18 in the NBA in Free Throw Attempts(503.0)
Ranks #1 in the NBA in Offensive Rebounds(299.0) Ranks #2 in the NBA in Offensive Rebounds Per Game(3.8)
Ranks #6 in the NBA in Blocks(165.0) Ranks #13 in the NBA in Free Throws Per 48 Minutes(7.38)
Ranks #15 in the NBA in Free Throw Attempts Per 48 Minutes(9.23) Ranks #8 in the NBA in Offensive Rebounds Per 48 Minutes(5.5)
Ranks #17 in the NBA in Blocks Per 48 Minutes(3.03)

CAREER AVERAGES
REBOUNDS PER GAME
YEAR TEAM G GS MPG FG% 3P% FT% OFF DEF RPG APG SPG BPG TO PF PPG
97-98 CLE 82 81 29.0 .518 .250 .762 3.40 5.40 8.80 .9 .63 1.65 1.78 3.50 13.9
98-99 CLE 5 5 34.2 .509 .000 .600 3.40 5.40 8.80 .8 .80 1.40 1.80 4.80 15.2
00-01 CLE 24 24 25.7 .487 .000 .679 2.70 4.00 6.70 .8 .63 1.54 2.50 3.30 11.7
01-02 CLE 62 23 21.4 .425 .000 .754 2.20 3.20 5.40 1.1 .27 1.35 1.52 3.00 11.1
02-03 CLE 81 81 30.0 .441 .000 .781 3.00 4.60 7.50 1.6 .69 1.88 2.59 3.40 17.2
03-04 CLE 81 81 31.3 .483 .286 .746 3.40 4.60 8.10 1.3 .48 2.48 2.01 3.40 15.3
04-05 CLE 78 78 33.5 .468 .286 .799 3.80 4.80 8.60 1.3 .68 2.12 2.45 4.00 16.9
Career 413 373 29.3 .470 .167 .766 3.20 4.60 7.70 1.2 .57 1.80 2.11 3.50 14.8
Playoff 4 4 36.8 .571 .000 .520 3.50 4.00 7.50 .5 .50 1.25 2.50 5.50 17.3
All-Star 2 0 10.5 .556 .000 1.000 1.50 2.00 3.50 .5 .00 1.00 1.00 1.50 6.0


CAREER TOTALS
REBOUNDS
YEAR TEAM G GS MIN FGM-A 3PM-A FTM-A OFF DEF TOT AST STL BLK TO PF PTS
97-98 CLE 82 81 2,379 454-876 1-4 230-302 279 444 723 71 52 135 146 288 1,139
98-99 CLE 5 5 171 29-57 0-0 18-30 17 27 44 4 4 7 9 24 76
00-01 CLE 24 24 616 114-234 0-2 53-78 65 95 160 18 15 37 60 78 281
01-02 CLE 62 23 1,329 241-567 0-5 208-276 136 198 334 70 17 84 94 187 690
02-03 CLE 81 81 2,432 495-1,122 0-5 400-512 240 371 611 127 56 152 210 274 1,390
03-04 CLE 81 81 2,539 466-965 2-7 303-406 279 374 653 109 39 201 163 277 1,237
04-05 CLE 78 78 2,615 458-979 2-7 402-503 299 373 672 100 53 165 191 313 1,320
Career 413 373 12,081 2,257-4,800 5-30 1,614-2,107 1,315 1,882 3,197 499 236 781 873 1,441 6,133
Playoff 4 4 147 28-49 0-0 13-25 14 16 30 2 2 5 10 22 69
All-Star 2 0 21 5-9 0-0 2-2 3 4 7 1 0 2 2 3 12

CAREER TRANSACTIONS
Selected by the Cleveland Cavaliers in the first round (20th pick overall) of the 1996 NBA Draft.

Season Highs / Career Highs
2004-05 HIGHS CAREER HIGHS
Points 35 vs. Indiana 11/03/04 35 2 Times
Field Goals Made 12 vs. Indiana 11/03/04 15 vs. Orlando 01/21/03
Field Goals Attempted 24 vs. Indiana 11/03/04 28 vs. Orlando 01/21/03
Three Point Field Goals Made 1 2 Times 1 5 Times
Three Point Field Goals Attempted 1 7 Times 1 30 Times
Free Throws Made 17 vs. Chicago 02/23/05 17 vs. Chicago 02/23/05
Free Throws Attempted 19 vs. Chicago 02/23/05 19 vs. Chicago 02/23/05
Offensive Rebounds 12 vs. Atlanta 02/16/05 12 vs. Atlanta 02/16/05
Defensive Rebounds 13 vs. Indiana 11/03/04 16 @ Phoenix 11/01/02
Total Rebounds 18 3 Times 22 @ Phoenix 11/01/02
Assists 5 @ Portland 01/19/05 7 vs. Philadelphia 11/15/03
Steals 5 vs. Detroit 11/24/04 5 vs. Detroit 11/24/04
Blocks 7 vs. Chicago 02/23/05 7 3 Times
Minutes Played 48 vs. Boston 12/18/04 48 vs. Boston 12/18/04
 
Helluva career recap there too..remember when the Cavs had 4 PLAYERS in that game? It was like Z Cedric Henderson and I forget the other 2 tip of the tongue someone help me out..
 
brevin knight and derek anderson-- i was there in the garden that night.

i attended the whole all star weekend- it's weird to think back on it, and remember chauncey billups as a celtic, and tracy mcgrady as a 18 year old raptors.

out of all the rookies that were in that game "Z" is the only one that is on his original team

east
brevin knight (cavs)
ron mercer (celtics)
tim thomas (sixers)
van horn (nets)
ilgauskas (cavs)
derek anderson (hurt, cavs)
mcgrady (ratpors)
billups (celtics)
cedric henderson (cavs)

west
antonio daniels (vancouver grizzlies)
alvin williams (blazers)
michael stewart (kings)
bobby jackson (nuggets)
danny fortson (nuggets)
kelvin cato (blazers)
maurice taylor (clippers)
roderick rhodes (rockets)

the best was the all star game though-- watching a 19 year old kobe go up against jordan (still with the bulls) and then watching karl malone and the rest of them freeze kobe in that game
 
Yeah man the future was lookin bright then wasnt it? Derek was in that MJ commercial cuz mj said he liked his style and stuff and he did well for us. And brevin established himself a nice jimmy. Then we let Derek take a ludicrous offer for Portland and they can't wait till that expires. Brevin is a Fa or maybe not with the Bobcats... Z is in the mountains..lol most likely returning and Ced Henderson was playing in europe last time I heard...and last nba team that signed him was golden state i beleive.
 
yeah the cavs and nuggs had a combined 6 players in that game who knew we'd both suck until 03 when we landed james and melo lol...it is weird i dont remember chauncey as a celtic and no one really noticed tmca at least i didnt as a raptor... who is roderick rhodes and wtf is yogi stewart doing in there hahaha hard to beleive he had a bright future...ever...
 
Is Michael Redd serious? Or is this the biggest load of crap I have ever read?

Redd was definatly wanted here. All the articles, all the talk before the season even ended was about getting Redd into Cleveland.

WE EVEN TRIED TO TRADE OUR YOUNG GUYS FOR HIM AT THE DEADLINE!

This is complete bullshit and I seriously can't believe he would not come to Cleveland because "LeBron didn't personally ask him to".

Stay in Milwaukee Michael Green.
 
CavsDawgsTribe said:
yeah the cavs and nuggs had a combined 6 players in that game who knew we'd both suck until 03 when we landed james and melo lol...it is weird i dont remember chauncey as a celtic and no one really noticed tmca at least i didnt as a raptor... who is roderick rhodes and wtf is yogi stewart doing in there hahaha hard to beleive he had a bright future...ever...
dude billups finished that year as a toronto raptor- he was part of that 3 way deal that sent kenny anderson from portland to boston and damonstoudemire from toronto to portland and billups from boston to toronto

nobody really remembers, that toronto had both mcgrady and billups as rookies during the 97-98 season.

that would be the best back court in the nba today.. plus the next year they would have added vince forming possibly the greatest perimeter of all time.. :eek:
 
Toronto had tons of talented players.

Damon Stoudamire
Marcus Camby
Vince Carter
Tracy McGrady
Chauncy Billups

Too bad Canadian teams will never keep their star players. The Raptors would have had a nice core if they weren't located in Toronto. But say they were a Texas team, they would have probably been more successfull than the Grizzlies.
 

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