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I've been wanting to put this together for a while now, and since I'm going to be relatively free this week, I figured now is as good of time as any. I was wondering if anybody here would be interested in doing a 25-round all-time Cleveland Indians fantasy draft here on the forum. I think anywhere from 6-8 teams would make it the most fun for everybody, and since nothing is really at stake here (I guess we could vote on who has the best team at the end?), we could take our time with it.

Rules:
  • The draft will be snake format and draft order will be 100% randomly selected. Team names are encouraged but not required.
  • Players must have been on the Indians for at least three seasons (according to baseball-reference) to be selected. No Josh Donaldson, Jay Bruce, or Leonys Martins here. A guy like Andrew Miller would be fine though, even though he wasn't here for three full seasons. As long as the baseball-reference statistic says CLE (3 yrs), it flies with me.
  • Players will be at their absolute peak in this draft when they were on the Indians. A guy like Eddie Murray who spent three post-prime (but still good) years on the Indians would be equivalent to his best year as an Indian, not when he was an MVP candidate in Baltimore.
  • Teams will have to fill out a full starting lineup consisting of three outfielders, a third basemen, shortstop, second basemen, first basemen, catcher, and designated hitter, along with four allotted position player utility slots. Pitching is a bit more flexible, but I'd recommend five starters and seven bullpen guys.
    • Positions are relatively flexible between your players. I don't think anybody would care if you put Jim Thome at 3B or 1B or Grady Sizemore in RF instead of CF. Just keep it somewhat reasonable.
    • Pitching is the same way. I doubt many of us are super versed on the history of Indians middle relievers, so if you want to draft six starters and have one be a long relief pen guy, I doubt any of us would object. Same thing if you draft two or three closers. No biggie.
  • I'm not going to instill any time limit between picks, but if you know you only get on this forum once a week or so, maybe sit this one out so we're not waiting forever on your picks.
  • My absolute cap on teams is going to be ten. That's 250 players, and I think almost any of us on the board would be hard-pressed to go through and find 250 Indians players that deserve to get drafted in a thing like this.
First come, first serve on the teams. I'm not going over ten.
 

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Also, forgot to mention, anybody on the 2019 Indians is fair game too. A guy like Shane Bieber technically wouldn't qualify since he's only been on the team for two seasons, but I'm not going to hold that against him since he hasn't had the chance to be a three year guy yet. If you want to draft a Shane Bieber, Brad Hand, or Oscar Mercado, feel free to do so. I will say no Yasiel Puig though since there's no chance he's here next season.
 

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Also, forgot to mention, anybody on the 2019 Indians is fair game too. A guy like Shane Bieber technically wouldn't qualify since he's only been on the team for two seasons, but I'm not going to hold that against him since he hasn't had the chance to be a three year guy yet. If you want to draft a Shane Bieber, Brad Hand, or Oscar Mercado, feel free to do so. I will say no Yasiel Puig though since there's no chance he's here next season.
My next question would be, how do we decide the the points/winners of this draft?
 

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My next question would be, how do we decide the the points/winners of this draft?
It's mostly for fun. I don't know of any software that we could plug in a bunch of players from 1900 to the present day and get any kind of an accurate simulation to determine a set winner.

We've got a ton of huge baseball minds and Indians historians on here. I think we could have a vote afterwards for the best team, and since I anticipate this draft would take a few weeks, I could attempt to mess with some things on zengm.com to see if I could put together a simulation.
 

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It's mostly for fun. I don't know of any software that we could plug in a bunch of players from 1900 to the present day and get any kind of an accurate simulation to determine a set winner.

We've got a ton of huge baseball minds and Indians historians on here. I think we could have a vote afterwards for the best team, and since I anticipate this draft would take a few weeks, I could attempt to mess with some things on zengm.com to see if I could put together a simulation.
We also could maybe put together judges as well, mods or volunteer judges to grade each team?

so the criteria would be we can draft any player as long as they got three seasons on the indians with the exception of a current player who is under team control/has played on the indians at least a season and is under team control for long term?

Also when we draft a player, should we post their stats for that players best season? or their 162 game average? Or have a points criteria like fantasy now, and put up their highest points via fantasy number season? Also could do career WAR based off of a certain website like baseball reference?

Like looking at Doby, he lead the league in HRs and RBIs in 54, but he had better average, ops, runs etc in 50, so to me I would like 50 over 54 even though the voting for MVP ranked him higher in 54.

Sorry for the questions, I am just figuring how in depth you want to get with this, you want a simple, we pick Doby at this spot and his career was this and this, or do you want maybe a little more detail so everyone can read about what they actually did?

PS. I want in btw! I am just curious how everything could possibly work.
 

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We also could maybe put together judges as well, mods or volunteer judges to grade each team?

so the criteria would be we can draft any player as long as they got three seasons on the indians with the exception of a current player who is under team control/has played on the indians at least a season and is under team control for long term?

Also when we draft a player, should we post their stats for that players best season? or their 162 game average? Or have a points criteria like fantasy now, and put up their highest points via fantasy number season?

Like looking at Doby, he lead the league in HRs and RBIs in 54, but he had better average, ops, runs etc in 50, so to me I would like 50 over 54 even though the voting for MVP ranked him higher in 54.

Sorry for the questions, I am just figuring how in depth you want to get with this, you want a simple, we pick Doby at this spot and his career was this and this, or do you want maybe a little more detail so everyone can read about what they actually did?
I personally was going to put the year for every player I drafted. For example, one of the relievers I'm looking at big time in recent times is Rafael Betancourt. Betancourt was good yet unspectacular for us over seven years, but he was absolutely lights out in 2007 (1.47 ERA, 0.76 WHIP, 4.3 WAR), so when I selected him, I would say something like:

With the 88th pick, the Wailing Wahoos select '07 Rafael Betancourt, along with a summary of what I like about him, his numbers, his role on my team, etc.

However, I'm not going to force anybody to go that in-depth if they don't want to. If somebody drafts Travis Hafner and doesn't let us in on anything else, we'll just assume that it's '06 Hafner because that's when he was at his peak for us.

Injuries play a factor in player worth, so I think their best season's numbers for us over a 162 game average would be preferable, and I kind of want to stay away from any kind of fantasy scoring. Too much effort.

But yeah, if you drafted Doby and you wanted to specify that you wanted '50 Doby over '54 Doby, then feel more than free to do so. I'll be doing that same thing.
 

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I personally was going to put the year for every player I drafted. For example, one of the relievers I'm looking at big time in recent times is Rafael Betancourt. Betancourt was good yet unspectacular for us over seven years, but he was absolutely lights out in 2007 (1.47 ERA, 0.76 WHIP, 4.3 WAR), so when I selected him, I would say something like:

With the 88th pick, the Wailing Wahoos select '07 Rafael Betancourt, along with a summary of what I like about him, his numbers, his role on my team, etc.

However, I'm not going to force anybody to go that in-depth if they don't want to. If somebody drafts Travis Hafner and doesn't let us in on anything else, we'll just assume that it's '06 Hafner because that's when he was at his peak for us.

Injuries play a factor in player worth, so I think their best season's numbers for us over a 162 game average would be preferable, and I kind of want to stay away from any kind of fantasy scoring. Too much effort.

But yeah, if you drafted Doby and you wanted to specify that you wanted '50 Doby over '54 Doby, then feel more than free to do so. I'll be doing that same thing.
We can always get someone to judge teams/decide on who is the winner if we wanna do that at the end. This either way sounds like a lot of fun, and I think all the important details are down, so lets find some more guys!

@Derek @AZ_ @EdMonix11 @Urban @Out of the Rafters at the Q @BimboColesHair @Kevalier @The Human Q-Tip @Steve_424 @BMAN any of you guys wanna be in/maybe judges at the end?
 

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I've been wanting to put this together for a while now, and since I'm going to be relatively free this week, I figured now is as good of time as any. I was wondering if anybody here would be interested in doing a 25-round all-time Cleveland Indians fantasy draft here on the forum. I think anywhere from 6-8 teams would make it the most fun for everybody, and since nothing is really at stake here (I guess we could vote on who has the best team at the end?), we could take our time with it.

Rules:
  • The draft will be snake format and draft order will be 100% randomly selected. Team names are encouraged but not required.
  • Players must have been on the Indians for at least three seasons (according to baseball-reference) to be selected. No Josh Donaldson, Jay Bruce, or Leonys Martins here. A guy like Andrew Miller would be fine though, even though he wasn't here for three full seasons. As long as the baseball-reference statistic says CLE (3 yrs), it flies with me.
  • Players will be at their absolute peak in this draft when they were on the Indians. A guy like Eddie Murray who spent three post-prime (but still good) years on the Indians would be equivalent to his best year as an Indian, not when he was an MVP candidate in Baltimore.
  • Teams will have to fill out a full starting lineup consisting of three outfielders, a third basemen, shortstop, second basemen, first basemen, catcher, and designated hitter, along with four allotted position player utility slots. Pitching is a bit more flexible, but I'd recommend five starters and seven bullpen guys.
    • Positions are relatively flexible between your players. I don't think anybody would care if you put Jim Thome at 3B or 1B or Grady Sizemore in RF instead of CF. Just keep it somewhat reasonable.
    • Pitching is the same way. I doubt many of us are super versed on the history of Indians middle relievers, so if you want to draft six starters and have one be a long relief pen guy, I doubt any of us would object. Same thing if you draft two or three closers. No biggie.
  • I'm not going to instill any time limit between picks, but if you know you only get on this forum once a week or so, maybe sit this one out so we're not waiting forever on your picks.
  • My absolute cap on teams is going to be ten. That's 250 players, and I think almost any of us on the board would be hard-pressed to go through and find 250 Indians players that deserve to get drafted in a thing like this.
First come, first serve on the teams. I'm not going over ten.
I’m all over this!
 

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I want in !!!
 

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Will likely set the cutoff for sign-ups at around 4 PM Cleveland time tomorrow. Even if there's only four teams, that's still 100 draft picks between us which would take a good chunk of time.

I still encourage anybody that wants to join to join though.
 

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Will likely set the cutoff for sign-ups at around 4 PM Cleveland time tomorrow. Even if there's only four teams, that's still 100 draft picks between us which would take a good chunk of time.

I still encourage anybody that wants to join to join though.
I would say since it’s Labor Day weekend there’s probably a good bit of posters not frequenting the site like they normally do. Might catch more fish by extending a bit
 

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I'll do it. So I'm clear we're picking guys based on a single season rather than overall career or is season designation optional?
 

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