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I hate when people are complaining how much guys are getting paid...is it your money??
This has repercussions for our team, yeah of course I don't mind Andy making a lot of money, he seems like a good guy. The issue I have is we may be spending 20+ million dollars between our two centers and neither guys provides what we need out of the center position. That kind of money being spent on these two centers is not good team management and will handcuff this team. This issue is magnified by Andy frequently being hurt, and he is starting to look old and slow.I hate when people are complaining how much guys are getting paid...is it your money??
We were going to be in the luxury tax regardless so why does it matter?This has repercussions for our team, yeah of course I don't mind Andy making a lot of money, he seems like a good guy. The issue I have is we may be spending 20+ million dollars between our two centers and neither guys provides what we need out of the center position. That kind of money being spent on these two centers is not good team management and will handcuff this team. This issue is magnified by Andy frequently being hurt, and he is starting to look old and slow.
You get a lot of flack here, but you raise a valid point. It seems very reckless allocating that much money to the center position, and then realizing you haven't fixed the center position.Awesome, Andy's getting paid 10 mill a year to be a 18 mpg role player.
I don't care what anyone says 10 mil is WAY too much for Andy. What are we supposed to do when he gets hurt? Not only that, but if we pay TT 10 mil as well we are screwed for adding any more pieces to this team. Both of them are worth in the 5-6 mill range they are both hustle/energy players. This is exactly how we got stuck in Lbjs first run here when Ferry started giving out large multi-year contracts to players that didn't deserve them. With 10 mill you could get 2 solid bigs that do the same thing that AV does.
I don't know if you've seen the contracts that players get, especially bigs, but it is not as easy to find bigs such as AV and TT and pay them 5-6 million a year.
J.J. Hickson makes over 5 million a year, and his stats are as empty as they get. Hell JaVale McGee is one of the biggest dumbasses in the NBA, and he's making 11 MILLION this year. So, no, you can't pay TT or AV 5 million a year and expect them to stay, because that's not their NBA value. That's not even asking for a hometown discount, that's a slap in their face to even offer them that.
AV and TT stats are just as empty as JJ's. Actually JJ is a better player then both AV and TT. AV is much slower then he was 2 years ago. So both guys do need to be paid around the 5-8million range. Mcgee got that 11 million because he was beasting during the playoffs in his contract year. Mcgee deserves that type of pay he's big and he's a shot blocker. Problem with him is he needs more mins but he can't get use to that Denver altitude. He would be putting up around the same stats maybe even better then DeAndre Jordan if he got the mins.
The management is starting to look bad to me giving out that high of a contract to a player that's injured most of the time. The team is already stuck with Lebron's must have players of Miller and Jones. The team would be complete fools to pay TT anything close to 10 million. AV's contract is a poison contract and same would be said if TT got the same amount. These guys offer no shot blocking and both get bullied down low. The team only needs one of them.
I don't think it was a given that Andy would take some home town discount. Remember what happened in 2007 when he held out until December because he wanted more than MLE type money. He ended up signing an offer sheet with Charlotte on a 2 year deal and the Cavs matched.
He's a good guy but he's not stupid. He knows he would get a big contract by some team in free agency. Big men are always going to get paid and Griffin didn't want to take that risk.
I'm not mad at Andy's contract but I do wish they would've waited until the offseason to get it done.
Even at his age? it was a different time he got 50m for 5 years right?
what are we doing with TT then? :/