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We didn’t turn over the ball! Thats a win in my book!
 
He still doesn't go through his progressions. Never checks into a better play at the line either.
Never just isn't accurate. I definitely saw him check into some pass protections and hot reads that worked as well as you could ask.

Solid game by Kizer. If he's only hitting his first read he had pretty good success with it going for around 300 yards passing, and lots of timely gains running.

Screen passes and refs fucked us today, and we gave up too many gash runs to the Bengals. Kessler needs to just go away, and we definitely cut the wrong kicker.
 
Kizer is just good enough to lose. We will appreciate these near wins when the Browns shock everybody with an unexpected win, just like they did in 2016. This season is lost, don't lose Rosen in the process.
God help us if Hus stays gets more control over the 53 and gets McCarron thinking he will be the answer and we pass on Rosen.

Luckily I still think new leadership is likely.
 
God help us if Hus stays gets more control over the 53 and gets McCarron thinking he will be the answer and we pass on Rosen.

Luckily I still think new leadership is likely.
Yeah, that would push even me over the edge.
 
Hue is likely staying, gentlemen. He's never had much talent to work with, and at this point they wouldn't find a more qualified head coach who would take the job. Hue has taken it on the chin for some poor short and long-term strategic planning from the front office in public opinion. There will be changes, but Hue shouldn't be that change.

This is the part where fans disagree and blame the head coach... because blaming the rookie QB has gotten old. Fine... but sit back and see for yourself. Hue has an NFL resume, but this office didn't.
 
Hue is likely staying, gentlemen. He's never had much talent to work with, and at this point they wouldn't find a more qualified head coach who would take the job. Hue has taken it on the chin for some poor short and long-term strategic planning from the front office in public opinion. There will be changes, but Hue shouldn't be that change.

This is the part where fans disagree and blame the head coach... because blaming the rookie QB has gotten old. Fine... but sit back and see for yourself. Hue has an NFL resume, but this office didn't.

Regardless of anything else that happens/has happened in the front office, punting on players or entire positions, on the field with injuries and such, etc... Hue Jackson deserves to be fired because he consistently makes bad head coaching decisions. I can’t say I’d be surprised if he stays - at some point the Haslam’s either will realize or have realized already that they’ve fucked up horribly by firing people way too soon over and over again and keep Hue because they have to repair their image if they ever want to be taken seriously again. But make no mistake, that’s the only reason Hue Jackson will stay employed. This is not a case of a fan base blaming the head coach because they need to blame someone, our head coach sucks at head coaching and it doesn’t appear he’s learning from his mistakes.
 
Regardless of anything else that happens/has happened in the front office, punting on players or entire positions, on the field with injuries and such, etc... Hue Jackson deserves to be fired because he consistently makes bad head coaching decisions. I can’t say I’d be surprised if he stays - at some point the Haslam’s either will realize or have realized already that they’ve fucked up horribly by firing people way too soon over and over again and keep Hue because they have to repair their image if they ever want to be taken seriously again. But make no mistake, that’s the only reason Hue Jackson will stay employed. This is not a case of a fan base blaming the head coach because they need to blame someone, our head coach sucks at head coaching and it doesn’t appear he’s learning from his mistakes.

I feel you gotta give everyone one more season to really prove that their ideas and build was worth doing. The issue I had with the FO is they moved too many veterans from the roster.

Now after next season if it’s not working then yeah make changes since you should have a fairly nice roster made overall and it should appeal a lot better to coaches to bring them in. Hence why I feel we may go all in between free agency and the draft (aka trade our 19 first round to get another 18 first round)
 
Hue is likely staying, gentlemen. He's never had much talent to work with, and at this point they wouldn't find a more qualified head coach who would take the job. Hue has taken it on the chin for some poor short and long-term strategic planning from the front office in public opinion. There will be changes, but Hue shouldn't be that change.

This is the part where fans disagree and blame the head coach... because blaming the rookie QB has gotten old. Fine... but sit back and see for yourself. Hue has an NFL resume, but this office didn't.
I would hope and pray that whoever takes over the front office is allowed to lead a coaching search with owner input. Then the front office finds players that match the coaches system. That is how professionals do it! Forcing Hue on a new front office is continued dysfunction. If they want to keep him fine, but they better have the choice!
 
Hue is likely staying, gentlemen. He's never had much talent to work with, and at this point they wouldn't find a more qualified head coach who would take the job. Hue has taken it on the chin for some poor short and long-term strategic planning from the front office in public opinion. There will be changes, but Hue shouldn't be that change.

This is the part where fans disagree and blame the head coach... because blaming the rookie QB has gotten old. Fine... but sit back and see for yourself. Hue has an NFL resume, but this office didn't.

If the FO is gone, Hue is gone. I assume that means FO stays as well.
 
I assume they'll all be back.

My other assumption is, the best anyone can hope for is that they force Hue to hire an offensive coordinator to call the plays.

I'd just be happy if they hired someone as an assistant coach who could be a viable candidate as a future head coach. That way they could fire Hue if he fails to get wins next year while maintaining some semblance of continuity of personnel and systems. In that case they could even fire him during the season if he was still making bonehead gametime decisions.
 
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I assume they'll all be back.

My other assumption is, the best anyone can hope for is that they force Hue to hire an offensive coordinator to call the plays.

I'd just be happy if they hired someone as an assistant coach who could be a viable candidate as a future head coach. That way they could fire Hue if he fails to get wins next year while maintaining some semblance of continuity of personnel and systems. In that case they could even fire him during the season if he was still making bonehead gametime decisions.
Could they also hire a timeout and 4th down guy. I'm sure the Harvard guys have a person smart enough to manage this.
 
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Could they also hire a timeout and 4th down guy. I'm sure the Harvard guys have a person smart enough to manage this.
I thought about that. They could give Hue a guy who could tell him his best options in critical situations like red zone with clock running down, best use of time outs, and so forth. Of course a truly good head coach wouldn't need such a person, they are on top of that shit and thinking three moves ahead. So, hire Hue a guy to do as I described, plus somebody to call plays, make both of them potential future head coach prospects and maybe we'd have it covered. Hue could handle the post game pressers. But we'd have conti-fucking-nuity.
 

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