Cleveland Browns 2021 Regular Season: RIP

[Bob_The_Cat]

Don't know if people saw this, but what a fucking joke. The league should be ashamed of themselves over this incident. Harrison gets bumped into CEH, doesn't even really step on him, and gets shoved by a coach. Harrison retaliates, gets ejected, AND gets a fine, the coach gets nothing. I can't believe the guy didn't even get a minor token fine for inciting it in the first place.

NFL hits Browns' Harrison with $12K shoving fine

Cleveland Browns safety Ronnie Harrison Jr. was fined $12,128 by the NFL for shoving Kansas City Chiefs running backs coach Greg Lewis during their game last Sunday.

www.espn.com

 

[mds]

Yeah, the coach should also get SOME kind of punishment.

 

[Douglar]

The Browns tried out 8 players on Friday

The Browns tried out 8 players on Friday in including 3 running backs and 3 offensive guards

brownswire.usatoday.com

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Tryout players, in alphabetical order:​

Ryquell Armstead, RB​

Reuben Foster, LB​

Brian Hill, RB​

Tristen Hoge, G​

Sam Jones, G​

Artavis Pierce, RB​

Josh Shaw, S​

Chad Slade, G​

None of the players were immediately signed. The Browns did place LB Anthony Walker on injured reserve in their only official transaction on Friday.​

 

[sportscoach]

Don't know if people saw this, but what a fucking joke. The league should be ashamed of themselves over this incident. Harrison gets bumped into CEH, doesn't even really step on him, and gets shoved by a coach. Harrison retaliates, gets ejected, AND gets a fine, the coach gets nothing. I can't believe the guy didn't even get a minor token fine for inciting it in the first place.

NFL hits Browns' Harrison with $12K shoving fine

Cleveland Browns safety Ronnie Harrison Jr. was fined $12,128 by the NFL for shoving Kansas City Chiefs running backs coach Greg Lewis during their game last Sunday.

www.espn.com

Coaches should get a fine if they push a player like he did, it's honestly only fair! Now neither side should do it to begin with but anytime a coach and a player get into like that, they both need to face the consequences...

 

[Jack Brickman]

This is just like last year with the targeting call where the NFL didn't even issue an apology or fine the Chiefs player who went helmet to helmet on Higgins. The NFL is, as usual, a joke.

 

[mds]

Coaches should get a fine if they push a player like he did, it's honestly only fair! Now neither side should do it to begin with but anytime a coach and a player get into like that, they both need to face the consequences...

Or do nothing to either.

 

[Cement]

 

[Binkster]

Joe Woods needs to be on the hot seat. I gave him a pass last week considering all the new pieces and the fact that it was KC on the road…. But today was completely unacceptable. Looked just like last year and we know it’s not a personnel issue.

 

[bob2the2nd]

Joe Woods needs to be on the hot seat. I gave him a pass last week considering all the new pieces and the fact that it was KC on the road…. But today was completely unacceptable. Looked just like last year and we know it’s not a personnel issue.

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Last week the defense was not bad by any stretch. This week it was terrible. That said there was only one guy on defense that didn't have a terrible game and that was delpit. The defensive coordinator isn't to blame when you can't turn your head around on a deep pass, or don't take a step on a TD pass

 

[FrontPageNews]

Fire joe woods

 

[Binkster]

I have to disagree that the defense was okay last week. There’s only so much you can do against Mahomes but the they are still consistently shooting themselves in the foot.

Why is the secondary giving 12 yards of cushion on the outside? Our defensive line should be wreaking havoc yet they’re getting next to no pressure.

 

[Randolphkeys]

Joe Woods needs to be on the hot seat. I gave him a pass last week considering all the new pieces and the fact that it was KC on the road…. But today was completely unacceptable. Looked just like last year and we know it’s not a personnel issue.

Browns Twitter: "We need to fire Joe Woods!"

Browns tomorrow: "We won by ten. That's asinine."

Browns Twitter: "They let Tyrod run all over them!"

Browns tomorrow: "He ran the ball once. Sure it was a touchdown, but it was also a badly missed tackle."

Browns Twitter: "But Woods couldn't stop Davis Mills, a rookie!"

Browns tomorrow: "Actually, his passing rating was under 60.0. He had some timely third down completions, and players need to tighten up some sloppy play. But... what game were you watching?"

Browns Twitter: "But everyone knows you blitz a rookie quarterback!"

Browns tomorrow: "So you are mad that Joe Woods prepared a zone scheme for a running quarterback - like he did against the Chiefs - and didn't switch to a totally different scheme in the second half when a rookie came in? That's not how a defensive game plan works."

Browns Twitter: "We have been saying fire Joe Woods since last season, y'all don't listen."

Browns tomorrow: "You are damn right we don't listen. So, stop."

 

[MalTalm]

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Last week the defense was not bad by any stretch. This week it was terrible. That said there was only one guy on defense that didn't have a terrible game and that was delpit. The defensive coordinator isn't to blame when you can't turn your head around on a deep pass, or don't take a step on a TD pass

Not sure we were watching the same games.

KC torched this Defense last week. We couldn’t buy a stop. Now, that’s arguably the most explosive offense in the NFL, and they’re going to make a lot of Defenses look bas this year.

However, this week we had a besieged Houston team at home. Tyrod Taylor was their starting QB for f$&!s sake. And while they still have some firepower on that roster behind a suspect O-line, we couldn’t organize a stop to save our lives. They averaged 8.6 yards a play in the first half. That would be embarrassing for a high school team.

Garrett was a non-factor. The secondary was getting torched. We couldn’t read a screen (second week in a row) and we couldn’t stop the run. If one player is getting beat, that’s on them. When the whole unit is failing like this, it is absolutely on coaching. If Joe can’t figure out how to stop a pedestrian team in the NFL with the amount of talent he has on this roster, that’s a Joe Woods problem. We were never in the right position defensively. The rookie 3rd string QB was able to read our assignments.

I’ll put it another way: great coaches put their players in positions to succeed. Look how this offense is built around Chubb and Mayfield. They are dynamic, and so far our opponents haven’t been able to anticipate our strategy on a play-by-play basis. What is Joe Woods doing schematically to help Garrett? How are we designing our coverage to ensure Newsome and Ward have enough support they can leverage aggressive reads to break up plays?

I’m seeing a lot of 4-5 man rushes with man to man coverage on the corners and safeties kept deep. We’re practically playing a modified prevent Defense 80% off the time. And when we do load up a blitz, the offense always seems to know.

I’m not advocating for the guy’s job, but not sure how anyone would spin these two games into a “the coaches are doing their job, it’s the players’ fault “ type argument.

 

[Out of the Rafters at the Q]

Browns Twitter: "We need to fire Joe Woods!"

Browns tomorrow: "We won by ten. That's asinine."

Browns Twitter: "They let Tyrod run all over them!"

Browns tomorrow: "He ran the ball once. Sure it was a touchdown, but it was also a badly missed tackle."

Browns Twitter: "But Woods couldn't stop Davis Mills, a rookie!"

Browns tomorrow: "Actually, his passing rating was under 60.0. He had some timely third down completions, and players need to tighten up some sloppy play. But... what game were you watching?"

Browns Twitter: "But everyone knows you blitz a rookie quarterback!"

Browns tomorrow: "So you are mad that Joe Woods prepared a zone scheme for a running quarterback - like he did against the Chiefs - and didn't switch to a totally different scheme in the second half when a rookie came in? That's not how a defensive game plan works."

Browns Twitter: "We have been saying fire Joe Woods since last season, y'all don't listen."

Browns tomorrow: "You are damn right we don't listen. So, stop."

If Woods isn't capable of preparing his team for multiple looks and adjusting the game plan, that's a tally in the "not good enough" column for me.

I'm also of the opinion that if you don't have someone who can be compared to Fangio, Saban, Belichick, Bowles, Spags, et al then you should keep looking. Not saying shitcan someone mid-season, but if things don't change, I'd have an open mind this offseason.

I also recognize that deviating from a gameplan in week 16 or the playoffs is much different than the second week of the season.

 

[Amherstcavsfan]

Really disappointed with Woods. I think maybe going up to the booth might help, because it feels like he doesn't make any in game adjustments and just sticks to his plan.

That said, the defensive line was bad today, but they needed to bring more pressure too. The best defenses bring pressure, it happens with Bowles, Spags, and even Belichick. Relying on the defensive line to create all your pressure isn't a viable plan unless you have an all time defensive line.