Cleveland Browns Wild Card Round - Crushed Steel

[prf100]

Thats what surprises me the most as an European who is non-native in English. Most of the time when I listen to a basketball or a football player interview the basic grammar is so broken. Dont they learn it at school or is it some kind of a status thing to speak that way ?

Long story and it always ends in an argument.

 

[adam81king]

It’s an urban dialect, sometimes call ebonics. Sometimes that word is derogitory or used mockingly.

Ebonics (word) - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

This is what you *should* have posted: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/African-American_Vernacular_English

 

[PITCavsFan]

 

[Jordan]

Why do people care about this?

 

[Marcus]

Why do people care about this?

Because it’s Saturday and we’ve already hashed out every talking point about the game tomorrow?

The wait is the worst part, exactly for things like this.

 

[The Oi]

Why do people care about this?

Because it seems the Browns do.

And while their silence goes to show they understand that they are underdogs, its safe to say an awful lot of these will be rt’d if they pull off a win.

 

[Jordan]

Because it seems the Browns do.

And while their silence goes to show they understand that they are underdogs, its safe to say an awful lot of these will be rt’d if they pull off a win.

They’re going to pull up conversations about language? I don’t think so.

 

[Surge]

It's weird people talking about dialects when the American-English language is highly regionalized and culturally crafted.

 

[Vee-Rex]

Thats what surprises me the most as an European who is non-native in English. Most of the time when I listen to a basketball or a football player interview the basic grammar is so broken. Dont they learn it at school or is it some kind of a status thing to speak that way ?

I'm black and grew up in many bad areas of Cleveland because my mom and dad split and got back together often (Garden Valley, St. Clair, Mount Pleasant, Euclid, Buckeye, East Cleveland are all areas I lived in as a child before moving to West Blvd at the age of 14).

Sometimes the grammar is terrible because it's all they know. Schools in these areas (and obviously other areas in the country) can be pretty awful. You learn how to "pass" without actually learning the intricacies of the English language. Happens all the time.

Then there are people who verbally talk in a broken English kind of way but are great when it comes to the written language. I work in corporate IT and my supervisor is Japanese-American. Her spoken English is clear but not great, yet her written English is flawless.

Then there are those like me who grew up speaking "ebonics" (if you wanna call it that) or "African American Vernacular English", but can also speak and write with "proper" English grammar. I'm not good at it (my wife is superb with English grammar), but how I talk often depends on the company I'm with. At work, I speak far more "properly" but if I'm around family, I be talkin' da way I grew up, u feel me?

I know this is off topic but just figured I'd chime in. WE CRUSHED THE SQUEALERS AND HURT THEIR FEELINGS, BABY!!!

 

[Randolphkeys]

As much as I love a discussion about dialect, have there been any new quotes from the Steelers claiming they definitely did NOT get their asses kicked last weekend and have a shit-ton of class? I like those quotes, and they get better with age. I hope they are still talking about it in February.

 

[Lee]

As much as I love a discussion about dialect, have there been any new quotes from the Steelers claiming they definitely did NOT get their asses kicked last weekend and have a shit-ton of class? I like those quotes, and they get better with age. I hope they are still talking about it in February after the Browns have their Super Bowl Championship Parade Virtually.

*fixed

 

[The Oi]

They’re going to pull up conversations about language? I don’t think so.

ohhhhh.

the you- you are correction.

thought you meant the shit talking stuff.

The answer to THAT question appears to have been answered by @Vee-Rex. Great answer btw.

 

[shoes22]

Just chiming in to say even though “Browns is the Browns” is not proper grammar, it’s also not entirely incorrect either.

Referring to the Cleveland Browns Organization (singular) as a single entity, “is” would be fine and correct to use.

 

[Sebastian]

Just chiming in to say even though “Browns is the Browns” is not proper grammar, it’s also not entirely incorrect either.

Referring to the Cleveland Browns Organization (singular) as a single entity, “is” would be fine and correct to use.

Technically correct, but also incorrect.

The entity is composed of numerous players and is a sports team. Generally, those types of entities are referred to in the plural.

Like "The 2016 Cleveland Cavaliers are the NBA Champions" or "After their historic loss to the Cleveland Browns, the Pittsburgh Steelers, facing the uncertainty of the return of fading QB Ben Rapistberger, are at a crossroads."

So JuJu was incorrect in the context of usage of plural and singular.

 

[prf100]

Juju is an idiot... but it has nothing to do with his verb conjugation