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Darius Kinnard Garland

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What is Darius Garland's Ceiling?

  • One Time All-Star

    Votes: 17 10.5%

  • Occasional All-Star

    Votes: 19 11.7%

  • 5-6 Time All-Star

    Votes: 31 19.1%

  • Perennial All-Star

    Votes: 40 24.7%

  • An All-NBA Team or Two

    Votes: 22 13.6%

  • Perennial All-NBA Teamer

    Votes: 20 12.3%

  • Occasional MVP Candidate

    Votes: 11 6.8%

  • Perennial MVP Candidate

    Votes: 2 1.2%

  • MVP, Baby!

    Votes: 10 6.2%

  • Being Jim Chones

    Votes: 13 8.0%
  • Total voters
    162
roozy said:
Garland training with Ben Simmons and TT.
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Dang, Garland can certainly shoot the ball! His shot reminds me so much of Steph Curry's, with the same low, quick release. If his career turns out anything like Curry's then this was a fantastic pick! Of course, with Rich Paul as his agent, the trade rumors would likely start in about 5 years.
 
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Bucketz said:
Does this make anyone else sick? I am disheartened that DG is represented by Klutch (AKA LeBron) and every time it comes up it puts a damper on my excitement for Garland. At this point I associate puppet strings with Klutch and how LeBron/Rich are creating a personal LeBron-tailored talent pipeline rather than a true agent/player relationship (one where the players influence their agents behaviors/choices, not the other way around). It’s like all these players are really only playing for LeBron approval to play alongside him or Bronny in the future. Sorry to be so negative, but I have a very hard time believing that Klutch genuinely puts their players before their own gains.
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I think the Cavs are among the few teams in the league that have a strong relationship with Klutch. Given their array of star talent that seems to only be growing and they seem to get a lottery guy yearly, I think we have to bite the bullet and accept that it's a good thing that Klutch has their Cleveland roots as it gives us a slight competitive advantage at times. Like our ability to go to that private LA workout with Garlands agent. The fact that he's openly excited about playing in Cleveland. Etc, etc. If the Cavs build things the right way, I think they have a better shot at keeping Klutch guys around especially since by the time Garland can get unrestricted LeBron will be retired and continuing to stack his team wont be a priority for the agency anymore.
 
sailfish said:
Dang, Garland can certainly shoot the ball! His shot reminds me so much of Steph Curry's, with the same low, quick release. If his career turns out anything like Curry's then this was a fantastic pick! Of course, with Rich Paul as his agent, the trade rumors would likely start in about 5 years.
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Rich is not Garlands direct agent.He runs the entire agency of course but Garland actually has a different guy assigned to him.
 
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pr26 said:
You keep saying it.....source?
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saying what? where is your source he wasn't picked as the BPA which always means teams are calling?
The fact they love Collin, and drafted another combo guard backs up the theory they believed he held the most trade value not just that he was the BPA as one goes with the other and that makes a legitimate difference given they have Sexton already. They will trade one of them , my bet is it's Darius
 
Ozone said:
saying what? where is your source he wasn't picked as the BPA which always means teams are calling?
The fact they love Collin, and drafted another combo guard backs up the theory they believed he held the most trade value not just that he was the BPA as one goes with the other and that makes a legitimate difference given they have Sexton already. They will trade one of them , my bet is it's Darius
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I love your willingness to die on this hill
 
Ozone said:
saying what? where is your source he wasn't picked as the BPA which always means teams are calling?
The fact they love Collin, and drafted another combo guard backs up the theory they believed he held the most trade value not just that he was the BPA as one goes with the other and that makes a legitimate difference given they have Sexton already. They will trade one of them , my bet is it's Darius
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I have it on good authority that as the roster stands: Darius Garland is basically untouchable. Obviously, very few guys in the league are ever truly untouchable(LeBron, for example). He is the last person the would trade. They would have to get 150% on the dollar, and they did not draft him to trade him.

They also very mcuh do not see Darius Garland as a combo guard. They see Garland as a lead guard, primary handler/lead facilitator. They see Garland directly as a point guard.

You're reading too much into Sexton being here and them liking Sexton.

Their final top 5 board was---from what I heard the week leading up to the draft and after:

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#1- Zion





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TIER
2- Ja Morant
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TIER
3-RJ Barrett

4-Darius Garland


5-DeAndre Hunter
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They had Zion the runaway #1 and top tier. The next tier they for a long time had Ja Morant and RJ Barrett, but over time Barrett dropped down a little bit into the next tier. I wouldn't say there is a huge difference between Morant's tier and the next tier, but they did like Morant a lot. However, a lot of people think Garlands shooting will end up elevating him over Morant long-term.

They were going to take Hunter or Garland, whichever one was left at 5. I think their preference if both remained, which they kinda knew wasn't going to happen, was still Garland over Hunter quite clearly. They did like Hunter quite a lot, and for awhile when it looked like the Lakers were taking Garland pre-AD trade, they did a ton of background on Hunter and came away with him in a tier clearly ahead of Culver, Reddish, etc.

It would be front office malpractice to draft a guy at #5 to trade without a trade literally agreed upon. It is just not something that the Cavs or any team, even the dumb teams, do.
 
InBoobieWeTrust said:
I have it on good authority that as the roster stands: Darius Garland is basically untouchable. Obviously, very few guys in the league are ever truly untouchable(LeBron, for example). He is the last person the would trade. They would have to get 150% on the dollar, and they did not draft him to trade him.

They also very mcuh do not see Darius Garland as a combo guard. They see Garland as a lead guard, primary handler/lead facilitator. They see Garland directly as a point guard.

You're reading too much into Sexton being here and them liking Sexton.

Their final top 5 board was---from what I heard the week leading up to the draft and after:

TIER
#1- Zion





___________________

TIER
2- Ja Morant
_______________
TIER
3-RJ Barrett

4-Darius Garland


5-DeAndre Hunter
_________________


They had Zion the runaway #1 and top tier. The next tier they for a long time had Ja Morant and RJ Barrett, but over time Barrett dropped down a little bit into the next tier. I wouldn't say there is a huge difference between Morant's tier and the next tier, but they did like Morant a lot. However, a lot of people think Garlands shooting will end up elevating him over Morant long-term.

They were going to take Hunter or Garland, whichever one was left at 5. I think their preference if both remained, which they kinda knew wasn't going to happen, was still Garland over Hunter quite clearly. They did like Hunter quite a lot, and for awhile when it looked like the Lakers were taking Garland pre-AD trade, they did a ton of background on Hunter and came away with him in a tier clearly ahead of Culver, Reddish, etc.

It would be front office malpractice to draft a guy at #5 to trade without a trade literally agreed upon. It is just not something that the Cavs or any team, even the dumb teams, do.
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I was curious about Hunter and what they thought of him. This thing about the trade is ridiculous though. Trading for the #5 pick almost never happens if the 4th pick is available. If a better pick is available the one after it is devalued.
 
Derek said:
Man, those are the most hideous jerseys
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It seems like there is no in-between. You like them or you hate them. I definitely didn't like them at one time, but I have come around.
 
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