Cedi Osman Goodbye & Good Luck

[cabs]

To people who actually watched a bunch of Cavs games, how'd he go from being our best 3-point shooter last year to being barely better than Okoro this year? Is he gonna bounce back, or is his jumpshot just permanently fucked somehow?

I think half his issue is he jacks them up so quickly and then as the misses pile up his confidence goes too. How many times did we see him overshoot a wide open corner 3 off a fast break, he was lucky to even hit the side of the backboard on a few

 

[BigZ94]

I think he is rushing his shot now and not setting his feet. It also feels like he is taking more off the dribble. It felt like he wanted to be Jordan Clarkson for alot of the season.

Last season we had alot more spacing and scoring threats. Defenses might be closing out of Cedi alot more now. No Clarkson or KPJ paired with Nance and Love barely playing basically equals we weren't as talented most nights vs last season.

I dunno man maybe I’m wrong but I feel Cedi bricked a disgusting amount of wide open 3s this year

 

[Wham with the Right Hand]

I dunno man maybe I’m wrong but I feel Cedi bricked a disgusting amount of wide open 3s this year

It looked like all the gyms in Turkey were closed last summer due to the pandemic. His 3-point accuracy took a dive from last year and that should not happen at this stage of his career.

I love his passing but that's the only thing I think he does well.

Looking at his game log, the last game he played really well and the Cavs won was on Jan. 20 in the double overtime win against Brooklyn where Cedi scored 25 points with 7 rebounds and 7 assists in 50 minutes. That was probably the best win of the season as Harden, Irving and Durant all played 48-51 minutes. That game is THE blueprint for how the Cavs can win next year.

Sexton had 42 points (Garland was injured). Nance contributed 15 points, 8 rebounds, 5 assists, and 4 steals in 45 minutes, doing a little of everything. Cedi had 25/7/7, going 4-for-9 on 3's. Prince came off the bench to go 17/7/4, scoring 17 points on 9 shots. Our four wings (Nance, Okoro, Prince, Cedi) combined to go 12-for-23 from deep. Dotson scored 15 in 25 minutes in place of Garland.

When the Cavs had wings who were producing offensively, like Cedi, Nance, and Prince against Brooklyn that night, they were a very competitive team. They need a guy who can do it every night, like a Jaylen Brown, to go along with Nance, Okoro, and Prince next year. Hopefully they can draft a guy like that.

Drummond and Allen combined for 25 points and 18 rebounds that night, which is what I expect from Allen and Hartenstein every night next season. Okoro had 8 points and 3 rebounds in 43 minutes but he has stepped up his offensive game a lot since January.

That January 20 formula of forwards hitting a high percentage of 3's, robust scoring from the guard positions, and dominating the center position with 25 points and 18 boards is where the Cavs need to be every night next season.

 

[Cavatt]

Cedi said he worked on his shot to get it off faster and with more range. That failed pretty bad this year.

I don't care about that. He is still making rookie decisions. That is the problem to me. He still has a poor awareness of when to drive shoot or pass. He attempts circus shots at the rim not unlike Drummond. He can't adjust on the fly and that is a problem.

He should focus on his passing game IMO and work to get back to feet set 3 pointers.

 

[inliner311]

Cedi said he worked on his shot to get it off faster and with more range. That failed pretty bad this year.

This makes alot of sense. He shot definitely looks like he is rushing. What's with this organization and trying to change guys 3 pt shots when it's working.

 

[Cavatt]

This makes alot of sense. He shot definitely looks like he is rushing. What's with this organization and trying to change guys 3 pt shots when it's working.

I never saw a guy work his way up to be the best shooter on the team and then just tank it the following year.

 

[BodegaBayCav]

If Cedi is traded, I expect that he becomes a valuable piece to the team that acquires him. Cedi does a lot of things pretty well. Rebounding, assists, seeing the court, and effort. However his shooting slump and trying to do more than he is capable of doing, put him in the poor player category.

On a good team, where he can have a limited reserve role, I think he will be a real asset provided his shooting returns to his past levels. Sadly, if he could learn the change of pace game, instead of his frantic all out style, he could be a good starter, again assuming his shooting returns to the norm.

At 6' 8", he sees the floor well and performed well at the point forward when we had no distributing guards available. I wouldn't give up on him unless we received a long developmental wing. If he had shot the ball at his previous percentages, most teams would want him. I am hoping this year's shooting was a slump not to be repeated.

I will feel a little sad when/if he is traded, but I am not sure that the Cavs need or want him. It may be best for the Cavs and Cedi if he moves on.

 

[inliner311]

I never saw a guy work his way up to be the best shooter on the team and then just tank it the following year.

Rodney Hood came to the Cavs shooting 39% which is about the same as Cedi was shooting last year. Then Hood went down to 35% on the Cavs in the regular season and was at 16% in the playoffs.

 

[Cavatt]

Rodney Hood came to the Cavs shooting 39% which is about the same as Cedi was shooting last year. Then Hood went down to 35% on the Cavs in the regular season and was at 16% in the playoffs.

Oof yeah he didn't fit on that team at all. Had no idea what his role was. He had that one amazing finals game and maybe 1 good regular season game. We would have loved having Cedi shooting 35% this year!

 

[Wham with the Right Hand]

If you discount his rookie season when he only played 11 minutes per game he shot in the 42-43% range overall in his second and third seasons. Even if he could get back to that (he was just under 37% this year) he still would not be a good player unless his defense, passing, and rebounding was above average, which it's not. He simply doesn't do anything particularly well and his shooting, rebounding, and ballhandling are substandard for a small forward.

I see his role next year as being similar to Damyean Dotson this year - stay ready in case of an injury.

 

[inliner311]

Yeah, I mean, he's already a good enough ballhandler and passer for a 4th/5th option. If he improves more there, that's icing on the cake. He really needs to be a competent shooter and a competent defender, though.

The reason I think he needs to improve his handles is so that he has that other option to slash and keep defenders off balance. Once he gets into traffic, he can't keep his body undercontrol because his dribbling skill don't keep up with his athleticism. Better slashing basically allows him to counter balance rushing his 3pt shot. If he is comfortable slashing, maybe he won't feel the need to put up his 3pt shot quicker and won't rush it.

 

[weepinwillow]

Rodney Hood came to the Cavs shooting 39% which is about the same as Cedi was shooting last year. Then Hood went down to 35% on the Cavs in the regular season and was at 16% in the playoffs.

People talk about the LeBron effect on all the open J's you will get, they don't mention the LeBron effect on the added pressure you get to feel on all those open J's. It's the Yang to the open jumper Yin.

 

[Wham with the Right Hand]

Kelsey Russo had this in The Athletic:

He shot his worst 3-point percentage of his career (30.6 percent) and field goal percentage (37.4 percent). This offseason will be an important one for him to be able to rebuild any sense of consistency in his shot.

This was the first season on Osman’s four-year contract. He becomes an unrestricted free agent in 2024. But this is his third season of playing consistent minutes and a part of the rotation. He has to show that he can play make, create shots for others, make smart passes and knock down his shots.

To sum it up - this was his third season of playing a lot of minutes and it was his worst. We're stuck with him for three more years. He's not playing anywhere near the value of his contract so I doubt anyone would trade for him unless it was to send the Cavs a bad contract in exchange. Just a big mistake to give him a four-year deal.

 

[Goldin Brown]

Cedi out here hoopin'.

 

[Cavatt]

Frustrating player. I can't tell you why he is unable to adjust his game to the NBA. I do think a change of scenery would help him. As much as we say, "Oh the instability hasn't hurt Sexton" I think it has hurt Cedi