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Very good decision by the NBA. Hopefully the spoilt players wont cause too much a fuss about such a small thing that goes a way to improving the image of the often tainted by players league.
 
Silly to me personally. It is all a part of the entertainment...what those guys wear is part of their persona's, which I find pretty hilarious most of the time. Most of the NBA is watched by a younger crowd who is entrenched in popular culture.

Do you really think people are going to tune in to the NBA now and say "oh, look at those nicely dressed young men running into the stands to fight"? It isn't going to make anything better as far as player behavior. The image won't change and it will just make it that much less entertaining to me.
 
Julius Hodge has been charged with assualt overnight. Yet another charge against a NBA player. Wearing suits wont stop this, but anything helps. You guys seem to blow up more about them wearing suits then bashing up women or the like.
 
Well, hitting women is indefensible...what is there to discuss? Dress code is at least controversial and a case be made for both sides.
 
i dont know... i think you are less inclined to act up in a nice suit but if i was a player id feel slighted cuz it seems like they are treating them like children forcing them to wear sport coats on the bench as long as they look nice then they should be allowed to wear what they want slacks and shirt but the chain and some of the other things i think step over the line
 
Stern defends new NBA dress code

By BRIAN MAHONEY, AP Sports Writer
October 18, 2005


NEW YORK (AP) -- David Stern wanted to come up with a dress code that wouldn't restrict his players.

So he picked one that wouldn't bother his owners, either.

``What we came up with is a dress code that even Mark Cuban could comply with -- if he wanted to,'' Stern said Tuesday.

The NBA commissioner spoke after addressing the Executive Forum on Sports and Social Responsibility, where he announced the league's ``NBA Cares'' initiative, which he guaranteed will raise and donate $100 million to charity over the next five years.

But instead of getting questions about how the players were going to clean up the communities, he got more about how he planned to clean up the players.

On Monday, the NBA announced in a memo to teams that a dress code will go into effect at the start of the season. Saying players must dress in ``business casual'' attire, the league banned items such as sleeveless shirts, shorts, sunglasses while indoors, and headphones during team or league business.

The policy also requires players on the bench who are not in uniform to wear sport jackets, shoes and socks.

And while Stern knows some players will be critical of the policy, he said there was no reason to be, as even jeans are still allowed.

``As it's properly understood, it will be embraced,'' he said. ``The union's fine with it. It's quite liberal and easygoing.''

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Good enough for Shaq, good enough for me! :thumbup:

Cleveland star LeBron James was among those who saw the reasoning behind the new rules.

``Sometimes you feel lazy on a flight and you don't want to put (dress) clothes on,'' James said. ``But this is a job and we want to have fun, but it's a job and we should look like we're going to work.''

Stern pointed out that when the topic was brought up during collective bargaining, the teams ``preferred that we do it as a group.''

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Sorry Iverson, try again! :thumbdown

Even so, many NBA players are more comfortable dressing like the fans they cater to. And Cuban, the maverick owner of the Dallas Mavericks, often dresses in T-shirts and jerseys.

``We don't really sell to big business,'' Phoenix guard Raja Bell said. ``We sell to kids and people who are into the NBA hip-hop world. They may be marketing to the wrong people with this.'' :thumbdown

But, as Stern pointed out, the reputation of the league's players had fallen to a point that was ``not as good as our players are.'' That's why he believes -- and insists -- the players will readily go along with his policy.

``We have a minimum standard that we've set that reflects on the professionals in our sport and you're going to do it,'' he said. ``We're certain that it will be complied with.''

AP Sports Writer Tom Withers in Cleveland contributed to this report.

Good Work Stern
 
Hopefully everything in life becomes very dressed up. If you can't put on the mask of decency to hide the real problems, what do you have? I sure am glad my entertainment is more business like though...whew, I thought we were never going to get to the root of these problems. :rolleyes:
 
Ok then, I guess the dress code goes to far. Lets just get lax on everything. Clothes don't hide the problem so let them do anything. Lecturing them does little, so forget counciling....................................

Noone ever said the dress code was a major issue. Tardiness should not be excepted, but apparently tardiness is cool, so lets let cool run the show.
 
I don't see how whether Allen Iverson wheres a big T-shirt, saggy jeans, and cap has anything to do with anything except is some business man's preference. Basketball is multi-million dollar circus. It serves no purpose but to entertain, so why does it need to pretend to be very serious and professional. :dunno:

I don't really care that much about this, I just don't understand why it even happened...why was dress code suddenly an issue. My guess is that Stern just wanted it that way because thats they way he likes it. He's the boss, but my personal - paying customer, targeted demographic, avid fan - opinion is that it was fine the way it was. :coffee:
 
I find it odd because like all things, a suit and tie has its place. If I go see my doctor, I expect to see professional attire and if I saw a lawyer, the same thing. But when I think of basketball players and my expectations of what to see, I'm thinking either athletic or casual attire. Coaches dressing up is great. I've always liked to see professional attire on them but with players, I'm extremely indifferent or at times mildly against it. Let's say there is some huge problem in the league. This code would change the perception of the problem but not the reality. If it's a serious problem these young kids in the league have, making them wear suits won't solve it (if there is some serious image problem, realize serious image problems tend to be more along the lines of WHO you actually are, moreso than how you look). Like many things in life, I wonder if this is another case of passing minor laws or customs to give the illusion of great change and problem-solving.

If something doesn't make a real difference either way, simply doing nothing is the most logical option; unless you like making insignificant or tiresome rules simply for the sake of making/enforcing them. A rule should never be made simply because it can be made (this would be like flexing muscles simply for the sake of flexing them).

Is image really everything and if so, is the bottom line all to care about? If that is the case, there shouldn't be an argument made for professionalism and honor (because then the code wouldn't be coming from a "pure" place). Whether its the NBA or political decisions made regarding small or even large potatoe issues, you see a disturbing trend of the freedom of choice being taken away. NBA players already lack freedom of speech and now lack freedom of dress. While some people prefer a lack of individuality and expression, I prefer the natural order of things. I’ve never been a fan of the McDonaldization of society, which tends to produce nothing but clones.
 
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oh give me a break. i was looking at larry hughes contract via the front page of this splended site and i was shocked to see that he was making $10 million in his first year and then $13 million on his last year. your telling me that people who make this kind of bank cant wear a suit??? thats total b.s.

they say that its not a reflection of who they are, so they are implying that the people who have to were collard shirts every day "represents" who they are. that is so weak.

these athletes are pampered, way to much. in addition these suits they will be wearing arent the cheap ones like i have from mens warehouse, they will cost several thousand dollars.

they can bitch and moan about what they wear and then go home and try to calculate how much money they made for one stinking game.

not to pick on larry but he will be making $125,609.76 a game, if the cavs play only 82. 125 grand for one damn game and players like iverson who make even more than hughes will bitch. pathetic. :thumbdown
 
You are just discriminating against them because of they their salary. I don't see what their pocket book has to do with whether they should were a suit or not. They make a lot of money, so they should have to comply with this or that? Doesn't make much sense to me.
 
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You are just discriminating against them because of they their salary. I don't see what their pocket book has to do with whether they should were a suit or not. They make a lot of money, so they should have to comply with this or that? Doesn't make much sense to me.

you have to be kidding me. he will be wearing a suit hell even jeans for a couple of HOURS and at the same time he will be making what the vast majority of americans wont make in a year, over a 100 thousand. thats bullshit.
 
Are basketball players truly white collar workers? I always viewed physical jobs as blue collar work. If basketball is white collar, we'll just have to agree to disagree. People fail to realize entertainers either break all the rules or are exceptions to all the rules. They aren't like you and me and never will be.
 

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