Fallout 3 Game thread

[Jack Brickman]

NV supposedly gets better reviews than Fallout 3, but I think the whole apocalyptic feel was much stronger in D.C. than it was in the desert.

That makes sense, because in the Fallout lore, Vegas was never hit with nukes.

 

[MD13]

NV supposedly gets better reviews than Fallout 3, but I think the whole apocalyptic feel was much stronger in D.C. than it was in the desert.

I liked the storytelling much better in NV than Fallout 3. My big problem with Bethesda (Fallout 3, Elder Scrolls, etc) is that they put a ton of effort into making a real, gorgeous open world but their character development is almost nonexistent and their storylines could use a lot of work. I felt like the main plot line of NV was much more intriguing and they had a much more memorable cast of characters.

It's been years since I've played Fallout 3, but I seem to remember how it was way more PG-13 than either of the first two Fallouts, which allowed you to do almost anything. In fact, I think there was a quest which you could become a porn star. Don't get me wrong, Fallout 3 is still a good game but to me it goes Fallout 3 < NV < Fallout 1/2.

 

[Kouki]

Just started New Vegas on Friday. Played I think like 90% of the main storyline in FO3 but had to return the game to a friend.

I'm not liking the map nearly as much as FO3 but then again I only put about nine hours into it so far. My favorite part of FO is just exploring, finding small gangs, maybe some hunting (haven't made it to Boulder City yet in the storyline but I travelled to Hoover Dam already). In that regard FO3 seems to be better. But I've heard the main reason why most everyone thinks NV is better is because of the storyline so I'll have to keep playing.

 

[The Human Q-Tip]

Just started New Vegas on Friday. Played I think like 90% of the main storyline in FO3 but had to return the game to a friend.

I'm not liking the map nearly as much as FO3 but then again I only put about nine hours into it so far. My favorite part of FO is just exploring, finding small gangs, maybe some hunting (haven't made it to Boulder City yet in the storyline but I travelled to Hoover Dam already). In that regard FO3 seems to be better. But I've heard the main reason why most everyone thinks NV is better is because of the storyline so I'll have to keep playing.

Without giving anything away, the main storyline amounts to choosing between various factions, all of which are flawed to some degree. And that's sort of what I didn't like -- it seemed like it was deliberately constructed so that even if you wanted to do the "right" thing, you really couldn't. And that seemed like a bit of heavy-handed moralizing to me.

 

[Kouki]

Ironically that's what I've heard people like about the game - vs. Fallout 3 where it is more clear-cut good vs. evil.

 

[The Human Q-Tip]

Ironically that's what I've heard people like about the game - vs. Fallout 3 where it is more clear-cut good vs. evil.

That's probably true. I don't mind games that mix up your options. I just don't like being forced into situation where none of your options are good. As a result, you end up fighting on the side of someone you don't really like, where the "pox on all your houses" option should have been a choice, and would be a choice if your character was actually in that real situation. So for me, if the alternative is "good guy v. bad guy" (Fallout 3) or "gray v. gray v. gray v. black" (NV), I personally prefer the former.

 

[Kouki]

I hear you on that point. I always try to do the "good thing" the first time through so I guess its kinda annoying when there is no "good thing" and you always hate something about the group you are supporting. Thus far in the game I haven't really discovered NCR's atrocities so I'm happy supporting them.

 

[Jack Brickman]

Haha in pretty much every choice-based video game I always just try to do whatever I think will personally benefit me the most. You guys are a bunch of goodie-two-shoes pansies.

 

[MoneyMP3]

I always try to be the good guy on the first playthrough. On my 2nd playthrough, I'm the evilest motherfucker you'll ever see.

 

[Kouki]

Haha in pretty much every choice-based video game I always just try to do whatever I think will personally benefit me the most. You guys are a bunch of goodie-two-shoes pansies.

Well I feel that usually you benefit the most form good decisions, though I could be wrong.

You can make the game a real headache if you piss off the good people...

 

[The Human Q-Tip]

Haha in pretty much every choice-based video game I always just try to do whatever I think will personally benefit me the most. You guys are a bunch of goodie-two-shoes pansies.

Yeah, even when I try to be the bad guy, I usually can't keep it up for long. Played Skyrim, and that assassin guild questline just got too nasty.

A really interesting game for that is Dark Souls, because the whole "invasion" aspect isn't about just nasty choices in the game, but affirmatively screwing over other, often less experienced players. And not in the sense where you've both agreed to duel or something. It's often about jumping some poor schlub who is desperately trying to kill a boss, and you invade him, kill him, and make him lose all the stuff he was trying to recover.

Don't do that other, though I do like hunting those guys down.

 

[Jack Brickman]

Well I feel that usually you benefit the most form good decisions, though I could be wrong.

You can make the game a real headache if you piss off the good people...

That's actually one thing I really hate about most games. You almost always benefit more from "good" actions than you do "evil" ones. Fallout 3 is a great example. The benefits of blowing up Megaton are far outweighed by keeping it there as a respite spot and trading post. I wanted to blow it up, but the rich dude just couldn't sell me on the benefits.

 

[The Human Q-Tip]

That's actually one thing I really hate about most games. You almost always benefit more from "good" actions than you do "evil" ones. Fallout 3 is a great example. The benefits of blowing up Megaton are far outweighed by keeping it there as a respite spot and trading post. I wanted to blow it up, but the rich dude just couldn't sell me on the benefits.

Well, is it really surprising that there aren't a lot of benefits from nuking a town?

 

[Jack Brickman]

Well, is it really surprising that there aren't a lot of benefits from nuking a town?

Considering someone very much wants the town nuked, they either should have made it equally worth it or not included the option at all.