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Haha, he is going to get 30 million +. Not that he is worth it, but the Cavs know that they can't get much better and will pay it.
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Game Thread | 2020-21 Season | Game #66 | Blazers @ Cavs | May 5, 2021
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He can't get that much.
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I just want the suckage to stop.
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I thought that was the max for a new contract? Well he will be asking for the max, i guarantee it.
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On 1100 they were saying this was the 1st year of the rebuild, i don't know what they call the trash from the past two years that we have witnessed.
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He’ll get it!! The buyout of Dre guaranteed that. Hopefully somebody signs him to multi year contract less than 30 and the Cavs can match it (he is a RFA)
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that’s I’ve been saying, people saying it’s not his fault he’s constantly injured. But no way in hell is love putting in the work required to stay mobile at his age
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You're right,Allen was the only one with a plus but he was getting pushed around like he was a doll.
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The Cavs did a pretty good job of hanging with a far better team as long as they did. With 2:10 remaining in the third quarter the Cavs trailed 90-80 and were right in it. But then they collapsed at the end of the quarter as they are prone to do and the Blazers went on a 12-0 run in the last 2:10 to put the game away. In the final 14:10 they outscored the Cavs 54-28. The Cavs just ran out of gas at the end of the third.
Nurkic and Kanter were just too physical on the inside for Allen and Hartenstein as they combined for 33 points, 24 rebounds, and 5 blocks in 42 minutes. If Allen wants $30 million a year just show him the tape of this game. Allen had 9 points and 13 boards in 29 minutes. Allen is long and athletic with a good jump, but his slim build and his scoring range of about three feet limits what he can do. He gets pushed around by the physical centers and he doesn't have an outside shot to force them away from the rim.
My feeling is if you want the big bucks you either have to be a dominant physical force in the paint like Nurkic or you have to be able to run the floor and have an outside game to draw the opposing big away from the rim and open up the slashing lanes. Allen does neither. He's a slim, graceful, athletic player who is very good in the pick-and-roll and a solid rebounder. He allows too many layups IMO and he has a tendency to let passes and rebounds bounce off his hands and it's too easy to slap the ball out of his hands when he goes up for a shot.
There's no way Allen can put on 30 pounds of muscle so his only alternative is to follow Larry Nance Jr's lead and shoot 10,000 three-point shots in the off-season until he can make 40% when uncontested. That and 10,000 more from the elbows. Otherwise he'll always be a good but limited player who will get destroyed by the elite players at his position.
Kevin Love's defensive deficiencies are becoming impossible to overlook. On the surface he had a nice game; 18 points and 8 rebounds in 26 minutes. But the Cavs were outscored by 45 points in those 26 minutes. Not all of that is Love's fault, but it's clear that his cement feet and lack of any vertical jump make it impossible for him to defend anybody.
Okoro came back to earth with 7 points. He was probably dead from playing 47 minutes the night before, plus the Blazers took note of his performance against the Suns and weren't going to let him do that to them.
Seeing Andy out there brought back a lot of great memories, but I'd rather look ahead to next season.
Lillard is just amazing. He took 17 shots and scored 32 points. That's equivalent to going 16-for-17. The Cavs were right in his face and he'd still hit the 3, even when they made him shoot off-balance or with a higher trajectory than ideal. Didn't matter - the ball went in.
Speaking of gifted 3-points shooters, it's a good thing Norman Powell didn't suit up or the Blazers might have scored 160. As it was they shot nearly 58% and 48.5% on 3's. The Cavs had no defense for that kind of shooting. C.J. McCollum had an off night, going 3-for-14, or the score would have been even more ridiculous. But I appreciate the Cavs keeping it competitive for almost three quarters despite all the injures and coming off an overtime game last night.
Nurkic and Kanter were just too physical on the inside for Allen and Hartenstein as they combined for 33 points, 24 rebounds, and 5 blocks in 42 minutes. If Allen wants $30 million a year just show him the tape of this game. Allen had 9 points and 13 boards in 29 minutes. Allen is long and athletic with a good jump, but his slim build and his scoring range of about three feet limits what he can do. He gets pushed around by the physical centers and he doesn't have an outside shot to force them away from the rim.
My feeling is if you want the big bucks you either have to be a dominant physical force in the paint like Nurkic or you have to be able to run the floor and have an outside game to draw the opposing big away from the rim and open up the slashing lanes. Allen does neither. He's a slim, graceful, athletic player who is very good in the pick-and-roll and a solid rebounder. He allows too many layups IMO and he has a tendency to let passes and rebounds bounce off his hands and it's too easy to slap the ball out of his hands when he goes up for a shot.
There's no way Allen can put on 30 pounds of muscle so his only alternative is to follow Larry Nance Jr's lead and shoot 10,000 three-point shots in the off-season until he can make 40% when uncontested. That and 10,000 more from the elbows. Otherwise he'll always be a good but limited player who will get destroyed by the elite players at his position.
Kevin Love's defensive deficiencies are becoming impossible to overlook. On the surface he had a nice game; 18 points and 8 rebounds in 26 minutes. But the Cavs were outscored by 45 points in those 26 minutes. Not all of that is Love's fault, but it's clear that his cement feet and lack of any vertical jump make it impossible for him to defend anybody.
Okoro came back to earth with 7 points. He was probably dead from playing 47 minutes the night before, plus the Blazers took note of his performance against the Suns and weren't going to let him do that to them.
Seeing Andy out there brought back a lot of great memories, but I'd rather look ahead to next season.
Lillard is just amazing. He took 17 shots and scored 32 points. That's equivalent to going 16-for-17. The Cavs were right in his face and he'd still hit the 3, even when they made him shoot off-balance or with a higher trajectory than ideal. Didn't matter - the ball went in.
Speaking of gifted 3-points shooters, it's a good thing Norman Powell didn't suit up or the Blazers might have scored 160. As it was they shot nearly 58% and 48.5% on 3's. The Cavs had no defense for that kind of shooting. C.J. McCollum had an off night, going 3-for-14, or the score would have been even more ridiculous. But I appreciate the Cavs keeping it competitive for almost three quarters despite all the injures and coming off an overtime game last night.
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I hope Allen was tired last night because his effort stunk.
He consistently loafed back on defense time after time. It
was disheartening to watch the Blazer center grab the rebound,
then see Allen(standing in close proximity) watch his man sprinting
to the other end while JA jogged and barely made half court by the
time his man was in the paint.
Hartenstein wasn't better in this regard.
As Wham as stated repeatedly, we also got a dose of him being muscled
around like the 97 pound weakling from the old body building ads.
And finally, he got stripped of the ball for turnovers.
He needs some muscle!
He consistently loafed back on defense time after time. It
was disheartening to watch the Blazer center grab the rebound,
then see Allen(standing in close proximity) watch his man sprinting
to the other end while JA jogged and barely made half court by the
time his man was in the paint.
Hartenstein wasn't better in this regard.
As Wham as stated repeatedly, we also got a dose of him being muscled
around like the 97 pound weakling from the old body building ads.
And finally, he got stripped of the ball for turnovers.
He needs some muscle!
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Hartenstein was obviously rusty and out of sync as he was a -29 in 13 minutes. But he still had 8 points and 4 assists in 13 minutes. It was the defense that was the problem.
Also, I thought Varajao looked a little rusty.
I looked at the play-by-play and according to my arithmetic the Cavaliers were outscored 91-48 when Love was in the game for a -43. The box score has him at -45. The point is that the Blazers scored 91 points in the 26 minutes Love was on the floor. That extrapolates to 168 points in 48 minutes.
91 points in 26 minutes. I appreciate Love being out there during this final meaningless stretch of the season, but he's not helping the team. It would be better if they just let him take the last eight games off, finish the season healthy, and tell him to spend the off-season working with a personal trainer on flexibility and quickness. I get that he's not fully recovered but he can't play in this league at the speed he's moving.
If you didn't know anything about the players and watched the game you'd think Love and Varajao were both 38. But with the Cavs as short-handed as they are need every healthy body and I respect Love for doing his best with what he has left.
Also, I thought Varajao looked a little rusty.
I looked at the play-by-play and according to my arithmetic the Cavaliers were outscored 91-48 when Love was in the game for a -43. The box score has him at -45. The point is that the Blazers scored 91 points in the 26 minutes Love was on the floor. That extrapolates to 168 points in 48 minutes.
91 points in 26 minutes. I appreciate Love being out there during this final meaningless stretch of the season, but he's not helping the team. It would be better if they just let him take the last eight games off, finish the season healthy, and tell him to spend the off-season working with a personal trainer on flexibility and quickness. I get that he's not fully recovered but he can't play in this league at the speed he's moving.
If you didn't know anything about the players and watched the game you'd think Love and Varajao were both 38. But with the Cavs as short-handed as they are need every healthy body and I respect Love for doing his best with what he has left.
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Yes, he got bullied in the paint which means he has to develop some kind of outside game because he'll never be a force inside. Nance had the same slim build and the same issue. He realized he needed an outside game and made the effort to shoot 3's every day until he could hit 38%.
Nurkic is hitting 39% of his 3's. There's no reason big men can't shoot 3's. Look at Durant and Nowitzki. The Cavs are not going to the playoffs and AFAIK Allen is not on the Olympic Team, so he has six months to work on his outside game and maybe develop an effective jump hook while he's at it. Right now he's a taller, slimmer Tristan Thompson - a pick setter and offensive rebounder with a 3-foot offensive game.