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Hey let’s talk some Mickey Mantle
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“I got a blow job under the right field bleachers by the Yankee bull pen. It was about the third or fourth inning. I had a pulled groin and couldn’t fuck at the time. She was a very nice girl and asked me what to do with the cum after I come in her mouth. I said don’t ask me, I’m no cock-sucker.”
- Mickey Mantle, The All-American Boy
IMO, the most gifted baseball player of all-time if you don’t take health into consideration.
- Mickey Mantle, The All-American Boy
IMO, the most gifted baseball player of all-time if you don’t take health into consideration.
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In April of '51 Mantle hit a 565 foot dinger off Chuck Stobbs.
@BimboColesHair just hit that one 566 feet.
Mantle was listed as 5'11", but was closer to 5'8".
George Weiss, the long time development director and then GM of the Yankees was fascinated with the idea of a true power hitter with a small strike zone. Mantle was put under the tutelage of Tommy Heinrich, old Mister Reliable.
In spite of a crippling knee injury that left him in permanent pain, Mantle retired with the best SB percentage in history at the time.
He also was a very good defensive CF.
Ya have to wonder what his numbers would have looked like if he hadn't tripped on a sprinkler head.
George Weiss, the long time development director and then GM of the Yankees was fascinated with the idea of a true power hitter with a small strike zone. Mantle was put under the tutelage of Tommy Heinrich, old Mister Reliable.
In spite of a crippling knee injury that left him in permanent pain, Mantle retired with the best SB percentage in history at the time.
He also was a very good defensive CF.
Ya have to wonder what his numbers would have looked like if he hadn't tripped on a sprinkler head.
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Nope, never met Mickey, closest is I met Joe Charboneau while bartending at a bar in Indiana while he was scouting. I asked if the stories of him using his eye socket to open a beer were true and he said yes, but he doesnt do that anymore.
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I only saw the Mick live in one game at old Municipal Stadium in the late '60's. I remember a huge crowd, it might have been Bat Day.
But TBH, the Mick looked sort of old, and definitely not athletic.
It's sad to see greats of the game when they're near the end of the line. Willie with the Mets. Carlton with the Indians.
But TBH, the Mick looked sort of old, and definitely not athletic.
It's sad to see greats of the game when they're near the end of the line. Willie with the Mets. Carlton with the Indians.
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As a kid growing up in the late 50s, early-mid 60s, we'd play pick up ball and it seemed all my friends wanted to be Mickey Mantle. I was always Willie Mays (still my favorite baseball player of all time).
IMO Mays was the second best player of all time.
Mantle injured his knee in the 1951 World Series while avoiding a collision with Joe Dimaggio. He played the rest of his career with a torn ACL. Had that not happened, I believe he could have been better than Mays.
Ironically, the fly ball on which the Mick got hurt was hit by Willie Mays.
Mantle injured his knee in the 1951 World Series while avoiding a collision with Joe Dimaggio. He played the rest of his career with a torn ACL. Had that not happened, I believe he could have been better than Mays.
Ironically, the fly ball on which the Mick got hurt was hit by Willie Mays.
Trout is undoubtedly the best player of this era, and arguably the best non steroid player since the days of Mays, Mantle, et al.
If he keeps his pace up for another eight years, he will be right up there with the all time greats, excluding only Babe Ruth.
But to give some idea how good Mantle was ( on one good leg)...
In terms of fWAR, Mantle had three seasons better than Trout's best...two by a lot.
In terms of OPS+, Mantle had three seasons far better than better than Trout's best.
In terms of wRC+, Mantle had five seasons better than Trout's best, two by a lot.
Unfortunately for Trout, he will not get as big of an opportunity to shine in the post season as Mantle did.
Mantle's alcohol use, general life style, and career full of injuries are well known, and had to negatively effect the length of his career, and his later production.
By all accounts, Trout's lifestyle is more attune to a longer and perhaps more productive later career.
When he was about 10 yrs old, my cousin got to see the Tribe play NY in a Sunday doubleheader. The old stadium was sold out, and he and my uncle stood behind the centerfield fence. Right in front of them was the Mick. To their left was Maris. To their right was Yogi Berra in one game, and Elston Howard in the other.
Can you imagine that?
If he keeps his pace up for another eight years, he will be right up there with the all time greats, excluding only Babe Ruth.
But to give some idea how good Mantle was ( on one good leg)...
In terms of fWAR, Mantle had three seasons better than Trout's best...two by a lot.
In terms of OPS+, Mantle had three seasons far better than better than Trout's best.
In terms of wRC+, Mantle had five seasons better than Trout's best, two by a lot.
Unfortunately for Trout, he will not get as big of an opportunity to shine in the post season as Mantle did.
Mantle's alcohol use, general life style, and career full of injuries are well known, and had to negatively effect the length of his career, and his later production.
By all accounts, Trout's lifestyle is more attune to a longer and perhaps more productive later career.
When he was about 10 yrs old, my cousin got to see the Tribe play NY in a Sunday doubleheader. The old stadium was sold out, and he and my uncle stood behind the centerfield fence. Right in front of them was the Mick. To their left was Maris. To their right was Yogi Berra in one game, and Elston Howard in the other.
Can you imagine that?
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Was that the sprinkler injury? I always remember something with Mantle and him having a career altering injury with stepping on a sprinkler wrong in the OF, might have been someone else.
As for the 'had that not happened,' that's history told a million times. There are probably 1,000's of players that could be pointed to and said 'had that not happened, he would have been the X greatest.' I think it was you that compared Sizemore in a different post, I remember Peter Gammons coming up with his HOF career stats for Sizemore before injuries ruined him.
Funny thing, just this morning I was looking at The Kid's stats on BR. Can you believe his career WAR is only 83.8? From his '89 debut to his first year in Cincy in 2000, he accumulated 76.2 of that WAR by the age of 30 and change. Mike Trout is going to be 30 in August. His career WAR so far is 74.6. Shit can seriously change fast.