Hollywood scandal

[The Human Q-Tip]

Yeah, getting raped is just another day at the office for me. Who are the babies who actually care about getting sexually abused? The participation ribbon/safe space generation strikes again!

Rape is also pretty comparable to running into a table. Spot on.

I do think there is a difference between rape, and making a crude pass, and some of that distinction is being lost as the flood of allegations against various people tend to get lumped together as just another "name" added to the mix.

With Franken, I do see the photo as just a dumb joke. If it was women faking grabbing a guy's butt, nobody would care. But that woman's story about Franken pestering her and then jamming his tongue down her throat was pretty creepy.

 

[The Oi]

So if someone says "look, someone from 'the religion of peace'...a Muhammad worshipping, Anti-lgbt man fucker, just committed a terrorist attack" they'd get labeled a bigot, people would get wildly offended and demand a banning. But, your post gets labeled funny and liked. I think I see how this works now.

I liked his post because I thought the story was funny and that Goodman is an obvious hypocrite.

But with that said, couple points before I probably have to immediately permaban myself from this thread when it becomes another discrimination/censorship bitching black hole like the other ones...

1) Islam is exploited for headlines but it has become somewhat protected on social media by millenials and more liberal leaning people.

2) Christians get minimal protection in social media and it’s been pretty trendy for years to mock them. Christians seem to be suffering this mostly silently as per the rules in their religion.

I see value in making fun of both groups without ill intent and no value in blanket hating either of them. I am neither Muslim nor Christian and I’m not a hateful person... so this is pretty easy for me to say.

Bottom line...I think @Maximus has a real beef here. I also don’t have any vested interest in fighting his battle for him.

Pussy.

 

[Sebastian]

1) Islam is exploited for headlines but it has become somewhat protected on social media by millenials and more liberal leaning people.

2) Christians get minimal protection in social media and it’s been pretty trendy for years to mock them. Christians seem to be suffering this mostly silently as per the rules in their religion.

You know, I am glad you clarified things. His post was muddled. Now, I would like to also clarify.

1) Many take it easier on Muslims, or "protection," because of incitement to violence. If a Christian guns down people at an abortion clinic, Christians across the country do not become targets of violence, churches aren't defaced or burnt down. The opposite is true for any time a Muslim is involved in act of violence. Constantly drumming up fear and painting Muslims as the bogeyman has real world implications.

2) Christians don't get the same level of protection because they don't need it. They run the fucking country and constitute the majority of the government and armed forces. No one is going out beating up Christians or attacking churches for religious or hate reasons.

They may feel they are being discriminated against, but again, that is their persecution/butt hurt and martyr complex at work. And they don't suffer silently, they constantly whine, bitch and moan how they, who are the vast majority of the population, run the government and have all the power, are being marginalized. They are hyper-sensative, fragile and cannot tolerate even the slightest joke. Snowflakes, if you will.

People mock them, not because they hate Christians, because by and large they are tired of a minority of "Christians" shoving their morality down everyone's throats (legislatively speaking) only to see, time and time again, how hypocritical many of them are when they are caught butt fucking a dude in their office, or sexually assaulting 14 year-old girls, or, in Moore's case, actively defending a sexual predator. Or Tony Perkins, head of the "Family Research Council" and Focus on the Family, covering up that Wesley Goodman molested an underage boy.

Now that isn't to say then even a small minority of Christians are bad considering the whole. The vast majority of Christians are fine people. However, a few bad apples spoils it for the rest of them sometimes when it comes to schadenfreude over someone like Wesley Goodman.

And, if anyone wants to claim they are suffering persecution as a Christian in this nation, I will happily disabuse them of that idiotic notion and relate to them directly my first hand experience in what real persecution against Christians looks like in other parts of the world.

 

[The Human Q-Tip]

You know, I am glad you clarified things. His post was muddled. Now, I would like to also clarify.

1) Many take it easier on Muslims, or "protection," because of incitement to violence. If a Christian guns down people at an abortion clinic, Christians across the country do not become targets of violence, churches aren't defaced or burnt down. The opposite is true for any time a Muslim is involved in act of violence. Constantly drumming up fear and painting Muslims as the bogeyman has real world implications.

2) Christians don't get the same level of protection because they don't need it. They run the fucking country and constitute the majority of the government and armed forces. No one is going out beating up Christians or attacking churches for religious or hate reasons.

They may feel they are being discriminated against, but again, that is their persecution/butt hurt and martyr complex at work. And they don't suffer silently, they constantly whine, bitch and moan how they, who are the vast majority of the population, run the government and have all the power, are being marginalized. They are hyper-sensative, fragile and cannot tolerate even the slightest joke. Snowflakes, if you will.

People mock them, not because they hate Christians, because by and large they are tired of a minority of "Christians" shoving their morality down everyone's throats (legislatively speaking) only to see, time and time again, how hypocritical many of them are when they are caught butt fucking a dude in their office, or sexually assaulting 14 year-old girls, or, in Moore's case, actively defending a sexual predator. Or Tony Perkins, head of the "Family Research Council" and Focus on the Family, covering up that Wesley Goodman molested an underage boy.

Now that isn't to say then even a small minority of Christians are bad considering the whole. The vast majority of Christians are fine people. However, a few bad apples spoils it for the rest of them sometimes when it comes to schadenfreude over someone like Wesley Goodman.

And, if anyone wants to claim they are suffering persecution as a Christian in this nation, I will happily disabuse them of that idiotic notion and relate to them directly my first hand experience in what real persecution against Christians looks like in other parts of the world.

It's apparent from the word choices and venom contained in that post that you have a pretty deep-seated dislike, even hatred, of conservative Christians.

 

[Sebastian]

It's apparent from the word choices and venom contained in that post that you have a pretty deep-seated dislike, even hatred, of conservative Christians.

I have a pretty deep-seated dislike, even hatred, for hypocrites. But, I see you still enjoy putting words in people's mouths.

I don't suppose you see the irony in all this?

 

[The Human Q-Tip]

I have a pretty deep-seated dislike, even hatred, for hypocrites. But, I see you still enjoy putting words in people's mouths.

They're not my words. They're yours.

Words/phrases like "run the fucking country", "persecution/butthurt", "martyr complex", "constantly whine, bitch, and moan", "hyper-sensitive", "fragile", "cannot tolerate even the slightest joke", "snowflakes", etc., are pretty suggestive of a deep-seated antipathy. Whether or not you care to admit it.

I don't suppose you see the irony in all this?

Nope.

I also don't buy your premise about Christians being privileged. Yes, the majority of the population nominally identifies as "Christian", but that includes a whole lot of people who probably haven't been inside a church in years. And if they have, it was probably for a wedding or perhaps Christmas/Easter. Nobody mocks those people.

However, the percentage of conservative/evangelical Christians is less than 25% or so of the population. They are constantly mocked, derided, and looked-down upon by their more sophisticated fellow citizens. They're the open targets of comedians and the media in a way that wouldn't be tolerated of any other religious minority, which is what they are. And there certainly have been some churches and various Christian symbols, displays, etc., defaced and even sometimes attacked.

But, your argument really boils down to "there's nothing wrong with mocking, ridiculing, and insulting people for their religious beliefs as long as it doesn't result in them being violently attacked." I don't agree with that. I'm not a Christian conservative, but I still know anti-religious bigotry when I see it. And I don't think it's pleasant regardless of whether or not it triggers violent attacks.

 

[Sebastian]

They're not my words. They're yours.

1. Words/phrases like "run the fucking country", "persecution/butthurt", "martyr complex", "constantly whine, bitch, and moan", "hyper-sensitive", "fragile", "cannot tolerate even the slightest joke", "snowflakes", etc., are pretty suggestive of a deep-seated antipathy. Whether or not you care to admit it.



Nope.

I also don't buy your premise about Christians being privileged. Yes, the majority of the population nominally identifies as "Christian", but that includes a whole lot of people who probably haven't been inside a church in years. And if they have, it was probably for a wedding or perhaps Christmas/Easter. Nobody mocks those people.

2. However, the percentage of conservative/evangelical Christians is less than 25% or so of the population. 3. They are constantly mocked, derided, and looked-down upon by their more sophisticated fellow citizens. And there certainly have been some churches and various Christian symbols, displays, etc., defaced and even sometimes attacked.

But, your argument really boils down to "there's nothing wrong with mocking, ridiculing, and insulting people for their religious beliefs as long as it doesn't result in them being violently attacked." I don't agree with that. I'm not a Christian conservative, 4. but I still know anti-religious bigotry when I see it. And I don't think it's pleasant regardless of whether or not it triggers violent attacks.

1) A someone who has fought against the tyranny of political correctness for years, I should think that you of all people would recognize the tone of someone telling people to get over themselves and stop being so easily offended. I don't have patience for constant whining.

2) If they are so powerless and few in number than why do they control the ruling political party? How is it they have been able to pass so many laws in their favor? Should we go through a roll call of the GOP Senate and see who identifies as a conservative Christian? Raw numbers do not matter, concentration of power does.

3) The elitism argument. Again. In any event, perhaps you should explore why people seem to have a problem with some sections of the Christian community or perhaps what about them lends itself to mockery.

4) You have been remarkably quiet for years when people start going in on the Muslims.

 

[BMAN]

They're not my words. They're yours.

Words/phrases like "run the fucking country", "persecution/butthurt", "martyr complex", "constantly whine, bitch, and moan", "hyper-sensitive", "fragile", "cannot tolerate even the slightest joke", "snowflakes", etc., are pretty suggestive of a deep-seated antipathy. Whether or not you care to admit it.



Nope.

I also don't buy your premise about Christians being privileged. Yes, the majority of the population nominally identifies as "Christian", but that includes a whole lot of people who probably haven't been inside a church in years. And if they have, it was probably for a wedding or perhaps Christmas/Easter. Nobody mocks those people.

However, the percentage of conservative/evangelical Christians is less than 25% or so of the population. They are constantly mocked, derided, and looked-down upon by their more sophisticated fellow citizens. They're the open targets of comedians and the media in a way that wouldn't be tolerated of any other religious minority, which is what they are. And there certainly have been some churches and various Christian symbols, displays, etc., defaced and even sometimes attacked.

But, your argument really boils down to "there's nothing wrong with mocking, ridiculing, and insulting people for their religious beliefs as long as it doesn't result in them being violently attacked." I don't agree with that. I'm not a Christian conservative, but I still know anti-religious bigotry when I see it. And I don't think it's pleasant regardless of whether or not it triggers violent attacks.

So it's ok to mock and call people snowflakes when they aren't Christians? Got it.

 

[TyGuy]

Has anybody even been called a snowflake here at rcf? I feel like it's only been used in Jest, but mostly by left leaning members mocking the right.

 

[Huber.]

Former President Bill Clinton is reportedly facing a new round of charges of sexual assault from four women, who claim the incidents occurred after Clinton left the White House in 2001.

Author and journalist Ed Klein reports in the Daily Mail that attorneys have notified Clinton that they are preparing to file four separate lawsuits against him. Klein says a member of Clinton’s legal team has confirmed the existence of the allegations to him.

Clinton’s history of sexual misconduct both before and during his presidency returned to the spotlight in 2016 and again in 2017 during his wife Hillary’s failed presidential bid and more recently amid new allegations of sexual misconduct against a plethora of politicians, journalists, and Hollywood celebrities.

Sen. Kirsten Gillibrand (D-NY) said last week that Clinton should have resigned the presidency in the wake of his affair with White House intern Monica Lewinsky. It forms part of a broader re-evaluation of Clinton’s conduct by Democrats and left-wing media pundits.

Klein, who has written a number of sensationalist books including All Out War: The Plot to Destroy Trump, reports that the women were employed in “low-level positions” at an organization owned by playboy billionaire Ron Burkle. Clinton was hired by Burkle and flew around the world on Burkle’s private jet — which Klein says was known as “Air Fuck One.”

Klein says there is no evidence that Burkle knew anything about the alleged assaults by Clinton. He also reports that Hillary Clinton is “furious” with Bill for getting stuck in another scandal and offered to hire private detectives to dig up dirt on the women — but Clinton’s attorneys said no.

Sources tell Klein that if they are not given substantial payouts for their silence, the accusers are prepared to hold a joint press conference to air their stories.

http://www.breitbart.com/big-govern...nton-facing-fresh-accusations-sexual-assault/

 

[The Human Q-Tip]

1) A someone who has fought against the tyranny of political correctness for years, I should think that you of all people would recognize the tone of someone telling people to get over themselves and stop being so easily offended. I don't have patience for constant whining.

I have no problem with criticizing a particular person who whines. But that's not what you did.

4) You have been remarkably quiet for years when people start going in on the Muslims.

First, it's easy to say something like that in the abstract. Why not point to the particular post about which you think I should have spoken up?

Second, if there are five people already jumping on an issue, I generally don't see a need to be the sixth. And if someone says something that I think is bigoted against Muslims, there probably are already a whole lot of people who have responded to that point pretty well. But I know there have been occasions where I've specifically criticized comments that I felt were unfair to Muslims in general.

My personal criticisms of Islam have all been focused on a specific belief set held only by some Muslims, and I don't generalize it to complaints about "Muslims" in general. I have a real issue with specific beliefs regarding blasphemy, proselytization, and apostasy, all pretty much summed up that a person's religious faith should not be subject to either legal or extra-legal force or violence. I don't care if someone tells me that I'm going to burn in hell for my beliefs or actions, because if I don't share that opinion, it's no harm done. What I do care about is people who believe that blasphemy, proselytization of Muslims, and apostasy should be illegal, and that either criminal sanction or violence are appropriate to prevent it.

 

[Cratylus]

You know, I am glad you clarified things. His post was muddled. Now, I would like to also clarify.

1) Many take it easier on Muslims, or "protection," because of incitement to violence. If a Christian guns down people at an abortion clinic, Christians across the country do not become targets of violence, churches aren't defaced or burnt down. The opposite is true for any time a Muslim is involved in act of violence. Constantly drumming up fear and painting Muslims as the bogeyman has real world implications.

2) Christians don't get the same level of protection because they don't need it. They run the fucking country and constitute the majority of the government and armed forces. No one is going out beating up Christians or attacking churches for religious or hate reasons.

They may feel they are being discriminated against, but again, that is their persecution/butt hurt and martyr complex at work. And they don't suffer silently, they constantly whine, bitch and moan how they, who are the vast majority of the population, run the government and have all the power, are being marginalized. They are hyper-sensative, fragile and cannot tolerate even the slightest joke. Snowflakes, if you will.

People mock them, not because they hate Christians, because by and large they are tired of a minority of "Christians" shoving their morality down everyone's throats (legislatively speaking) only to see, time and time again, how hypocritical many of them are when they are caught butt fucking a dude in their office, or sexually assaulting 14 year-old girls, or, in Moore's case, actively defending a sexual predator. Or Tony Perkins, head of the "Family Research Council" and Focus on the Family, covering up that Wesley Goodman molested an underage boy.

Now that isn't to say then even a small minority of Christians are bad considering the whole. The vast majority of Christians are fine people. However, a few bad apples spoils it for the rest of them sometimes when it comes to schadenfreude over someone like Wesley Goodman.

And, if anyone wants to claim they are suffering persecution as a Christian in this nation, I will happily disabuse them of that idiotic notion and relate to them directly my first hand experience in what real persecution against Christians looks like in other parts of the world.

This is an interesting post.

Part arrogance. Part religious discrimination. Part deep-seated misarchy, especially when the authority is of a specific religious persuasion.

I respect you immensely, Stannis, but you are better than what your post represents.

You call out @The Human Q-Tip for failing to recognize irony, and yet somebody as enlightened as self-actualized as yourself can't see the obvious irony in your own post.

I mean, I get it. You don't like religious hypocrites and loudmouths. I don't know anyone who does. But the vitriol you are spewing forth goes beyond a normal dislike. Clearly you have suffered mentally (and also possibly physically) at the hands of religious folks who call themselves "Christian". That's not surprising given your specific minority status.

But again, you are better than this. Don't stoop to the level of those who have wronged you. It doesn't become you.

 

[David.]

Yeah, getting raped is just another day at the office for me. Who are the babies who actually care about getting sexually abused? The participation ribbon/safe space generation strikes again!

Rape is also pretty comparable to running into a table. Spot on.

Well as someone who's been sexually assaulted, I minimize the instances it happened and it really doesn't bother me whatsoever.

If you want to strawman and say I'm making a perfect equivalenxe between hitting your head on a table and being raped, take that bush league shit somewhere else.

I'll dumb it down for you so maybe you can understand better if yiu weren't just playing stupid: a painful experience being downplayed can result in less pain than if you throw glitter all the fuck over it and parade it around town on a float.

It's incredible how some people just cannot understand the premise of hypotheticals or analogies because they're not literal representations of each other.

 

[Binkster]

Well as someone who's been sexually assaulted, I minimize the instances it happened and it really doesn't bother me whatsoever.

If you want to strawman and say I'm making a perfect equivalenxe between hitting your head on a table and being raped, take that bush league shit somewhere else.

I'll dumb it down for you so maybe you can understand better if yiu weren't just playing stupid: a painful experience being downplayed can result in less pain than if you throw glitter all the fuck over it and parade it around town on a float.

It's incredible how some people just cannot understand the premise of hypotheticals or analogies because they're not literal representations of each other.

Dude, your post downplayed rape and its effect on the human psyche. Just because your personal experience and your mentality differs doesn't make it the norm.

These experiences fuck people up. It leads to severe depression, anxiety, addiction, and suicide. Downplaying the emotional toll it takes on people is a fucking disgrace.

So please, take THAT shit somewhere else.

 

[David.]

Dude, your post downplayed rape and its effect on the human psyche. Just because your personal experience and your mentality differs doesn't make it the norm.

These experiences fuck people up. It leads to severe depression, anxiety, addiction, and suicide. Downplaying the emotional toll it takes on people is a fucking disgrace.

So please, take THAT shit somewhere else.

Woosh

Just woosh.

Refer back to my illustration via analogy. If you think I'm telling people to deny people's reaction to literally trauma, that's a complete misunderstanding and I hope you aren't doing it consciously.

I don't think you're up for am actual discussion so I don't think explaining something to you when you're adamant about the necessity of your hair being on fire will be beneficial for either of us.