Isaiah Mobley: 2023 SL MVP

[Heat Check]

Other than wasting a pick if he truly can't play, I see no negatives about this signing. Evan and his dad signed off on this.

No kidding?

Anyway… it's not about any sibling rivalry. Isaiah knows very well Evan is much better than him. But the (non) role of Isaiah on the team could become something of a problem for the family in the long run. Particularly if the Cavs end up thinking about cutting him. Can they even do that now? I'm not sure.

I just think it's a totally unnecessary complication. Evan's future relationship with the Cavs should depend on other factors, not his bro enjoying an NBA salary. This just wasn't needed.

 

[Randolphkeys]

No kidding?

Anyway… it's not about any sibling rivalry. Isaiah knows very well Evan is much better than him. But the (non) role of Isaiah on the team could become something of a problem for the family in the long run. Particularly if the Cavs end up thinking about cutting him. Can they even do that now? I'm not sure.

I just think it's a totally unnecessary complication. Evan's future relationship with the Cavs should depend on other factors, not his bro enjoying an NBA salary. This just wasn't needed.

Applying what might happen between brothers as a worst case scenario - a scenario completely without evidence between these specific Mobley brothers before - boarders insulting or pitiful.

What assumptions have you made about the Mobley family? Why?

If you want to lay down on the couch, hug the teddy bear, and talk about your own family, cool. There's a place for that... but the Mobley family have been doing just fine supporting each other in the sport.

 

[ansatsusha80]

I'm surprised people have a problem with this move.

 

[buzzdog]

I'm surprised people have a problem with this move.

I'm surprised that anyone could be surprised with people's takes on this board.

 

[edg1931]

Isaiah was a 5-star prospect and a top 25 prospect in his recruiting cycle. He is definitely talented. He's a solid stretch big prospect, who has a dad for a coach, and an all star brother to train with. He may not be as athletic as Evan, but he's built more solid, and passes and shoots well for a Center.

 

[shoes22]

No kidding?

Anyway… it's not about any sibling rivalry. Isaiah knows very well Evan is much better than him. But the (non) role of Isaiah on the team could become something of a problem for the family in the long run. Particularly if the Cavs end up thinking about cutting him. Can they even do that now? I'm not sure.

I just think it's a totally unnecessary complication. Evan's future relationship with the Cavs should depend on other factors, not his bro enjoying an NBA salary. This just wasn't needed.

Is having another Antenkenopo brother on the roster a problem for Milwaukee? I don’t think so. I don’t see how this is any different.

 

[CavsKermit]

Exactly.

What if Isaiah literally never gets any meaningful playing time, only some humiliating garbage time minutes? I mean... this is Evan's big brother, whom he presumably loves and respects. What if it starts getting embarrassing for them both? The role of a victory cigar is not easy, particularly when you're older than many of the rotation players. What then?

IMO this was a tremendously unwise decision that the Cavs will come to regret. It's obvious that Isaiah will not sniff the rotation. Again, he's not an NBA talent. And because the nepotism factor is always out in the open, any minutes he actually gets will be marked with an asterisk, which could harm the chemistry of the team.

Why create this distraction? I don't get it. Evan doesn't need his brother on the roster – he's in line for a humongous 2nd contract anyway, and he will sign it whatever happens.

I get the concern if Isiah doesn't improve his conditioning and the Cavs end up cutting him, but I suspect you're underestimating the value of a paycheck to Isiah that the Cavs have to sign instead of Evan.

 

[InBoobieWeTrust]

The posts in here speculating about the distraction and problems that could come with having Mobleys less talented big brother on the back of the rotation, from people who laughably have absolutely no idea what the Mobley family dynamic is like, how these two brothers interact with each other, how they were raised and the type of people they are…you guys are literally throwing smelly, wet, cow manure on the side of a barn and absolutely none of it is sticking.

Sure worked out for the Bucks to have Thanassis Antetokoumpo as their like 13th man on the way to their championship run.

If you guys don’t see the benefit of Evan Mobley having his life long workout partner, literally the guy who is more responsible for Evans development as a player than anyone else besides Evan himself…a guy who knows how to challenge, motivate and work with Evan better than any single human on this planet.

And a potential player in his own right. A tall, long shooter who has some team defensive chops. Nobody has seen or scouted more Isaiah Mobley than the Cavs over the last 3 years. They think he has a shot and they plan on giving him that shot.

Furthermore, if you guys think that Evan Mobley is anything other than extremely grateful and happy that the Cavs are giving his brother a chance at living out his NBA dream…no matter what the ultimate outcome is…even if we one day have to move on for the good of the franchise…then you don’t know Evan Mobley, you don’t know the type of person he is, and you don’t know Isaiah Mobley or the type of person he is..and you surely surely do not know Papa Mobley and the men he raised his boys into being. Isaiah Mobley earned this opportunity and if he stays long term it will be because he earned it.

#getthatweakstuffouttahere

 

[Dr No]

I don't know anything about the psychology of bringing him in and whether it will be a positive or a negative for Evan. I just don't think he is going to be a good NBA basketball player.

 

[InBoobieWeTrust]

I don't know anything about the psychology of bringing him in and whether it will be a positive or a negative for Evan. I just don't think he is going to be a good NBA basketball player.

The 49th pick generally doesn’t do much in the NBA. I think hes as good of a shot as plenty of other guys to be honest.

 

[prf100]

Evan and Isaiah on the Cavs. Josh and Bo Naylor eventually on the Guardians. Each Cleveland sports team could have a brother pairing if the Browns trade for Nick's brother Bradley.

Bradley Chubb is Nick Chubb's cousin. Not that we shouldn't find a way to get him on the Browns anyway

 

[Mr. Orange]

I didn’t mind this pick or the Australian stash.

They bought this pick to make Evan more comfortable and happy in year 2 and maybe more in Cleveland. I like it

 

[Heat Check]

The posts in here speculating about the distraction and problems that could come with having Mobleys less talented big brother on the back of the rotation, from people who laughably have absolutely no idea what the Mobley family dynamic is like, how these two brothers interact with each other, how they were raised and the type of people they are…you guys are literally throwing smelly, wet, cow manure on the side of a barn and absolutely none of it is sticking.

Sure worked out for the Bucks to have Thanassis Antetokoumpo as their like 13th man on the way to their championship run.

If you guys don’t see the benefit of Evan Mobley having his life long workout partner, literally the guy who is more responsible for Evans development as a player than anyone else besides Evan himself…a guy who knows how to challenge, motivate and work with Evan better than any single human on this planet.

And a potential player in his own right. A tall, long shooter who has some team defensive chops. Nobody has seen or scouted more Isaiah Mobley than the Cavs over the last 3 years. They think he has a shot and they plan on giving him that shot.

Furthermore, if you guys think that Evan Mobley is anything other than extremely grateful and happy that the Cavs are giving his brother a chance at living out his NBA dream…no matter what the ultimate outcome is…even if we one day have to move on for the good of the franchise…then you don’t know Evan Mobley, you don’t know the type of person he is, and you don’t know Isaiah Mobley or the type of person he is..and you surely surely do not know Papa Mobley and the men he raised his boys into being. Isaiah Mobley earned this opportunity and if he stays long term it will be because he earned it.

#getthatweakstuffouttahere

That's right, it's all speculation. A big "what-if". Speculation is interesting.

Personally, I still think it's something of a needless distraction, as it brings a new, unknown factor into the already complex equation that is the chemistry of an an NBA team. It's fixing a problem that really doesn't exist.

As for Thanasis – I think it's a joke that he's a supremely well-paid cheerleader for his brother's team. But I guess that's one of the perks you get when you're literally one of the three best basketball players on the planet.

Evan Mobley isn't Giannis, though. He could be headed for a great future, but right now it's debatable if he's even in the Top 3 of his own team. I think it's really early to be making moves like this.

Hey, I may be wrong and everything will be fine. But that's always a given, and the same disclaimer applies to everyone here.

The fact remains that the Cavs would not have drafted Isaiah Mobley if his kid bro wasn't here. He wouldn't be in the NBA. IMO that's interesting in itself, as bringing in a less talented sibling of a star player for non-basketball reasons is still a really rare thing to do in the League.

 

[Randolphkeys]

Here are Isaiah Mobley's college stats:



Here are Dean Wade's college stats:



Dean is the more accurate shooter, Mobley the better rebounder... but where is clear evidence one will be an NBA reserve while the other cannot be?

 

[buzzdog]

That's right, it's all speculation. A big "what-if". Speculation is interesting.

Personally, I still think it's something of a needless distraction, as it brings a new, unknown factor into the already complex equation that is the chemistry of an an NBA team. It's fixing a problem that really doesn't exist.

As for Thanasis – I think it's a joke that he's a supremely well-paid cheerleader for his brother's team. But I guess that's one of the perks you get when you're literally one of the three best basketball players on the planet.

Evan Mobley isn't Giannis, though. He could be headed for a great future, but right now it's debatable if he's even in the Top 3 of his own team. I think it's really early to be making moves like this.

Hey, I may be wrong and everything will be fine. But that's always a given, and the same disclaimer applies to everyone here.

The fact remains that the Cavs would not have drafted Isaiah Mobley if his kid bro wasn't here. He wouldn't be in the NBA. IMO that's interesting in itself, as bringing in a less talented sibling of a star player for non-basketball reasons is still a really rare thing to do in the League.

Some of your comments cause me to seriously think your basketball talent evaluation skills are borderline non existent.