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John Beilein hired as Coach

Grade the coaching hire

  • A+

    Votes: 13 13.0%
  • A

    Votes: 51 51.0%
  • B

    Votes: 30 30.0%
  • C

    Votes: 4 4.0%
  • D

    Votes: 0 0.0%
  • F

    Votes: 2 2.0%

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Douglar

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Blatt got fired for freezing up on the sidelines, calling plays for players not on the floor, and the infamous attempt to call a timeout he didn’t have in a close playoff game. Lebron emasculated him, but it was justified. Blatt’s game plans were often very good, but he couldn’t keep up with his opponent for 48 minutes and could not draw up a 4th q inbounds pass to save his life. In case it needs to be pointed out, Blatt has not gotten back to the NBA. He probably never will. In NBA circles his rep is trash.

Beilein has a chance to be a good hire if he develops the young guys as a venerable instructor, but I can’t quite shake the feeling that he took the Cavs job to boost his retirement account.
 

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Blatt got fired for freezing up on the sidelines, calling plays for players not on the floor, and the infamous attempt to call a timeout he didn’t have in a close playoff game. Lebron emasculated him, but it was justified. Blatt’s game plans were often very good, but he couldn’t keep up with his opponent for 48 minutes and could not draw up a 4th q inbounds pass to save his life. In case it needs to be pointed out, Blatt has not gotten back to the NBA. He probably never will. In NBA circles his rep is trash.

Beilein has a chance to be a good hire if he develops the young guys as a venerable instructor, but I can’t quite shake the feeling that he took the Cavs job to boost his retirement account.
Beeline and Gilbert are both giving each other a reach around. Develop and lose. He will pad his retirement account and by 2024, we hopefully will have a roster a coach can win with.
 

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Blatt got fired for freezing up on the sidelines, calling plays for players not on the floor, and the infamous attempt to call a timeout he didn’t have in a close playoff game. Lebron emasculated him, but it was justified. Blatt’s game plans were often very good, but he couldn’t keep up with his opponent for 48 minutes and could not draw up a 4th q inbounds pass to save his life. In case it needs to be pointed out, Blatt has not gotten back to the NBA. He probably never will. In NBA circles his rep is trash.

Beilein has a chance to be a good hire if he develops the young guys as a venerable instructor, but I can’t quite shake the feeling that he took the Cavs job to boost his retirement account.
Translation, "blah blah blah"

I've read your posts for years about Blatt. You and Jason are 2 peas in a pod.

:img56:
 

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And thats your opinion..

You know how Lue "managed" egos? By letting the big dogs (LePrimmaDonna, and Kevin Love) do what they want. Kyrie didn't have any problems with Blatt. Blatt is part of the reason he signed his extension a little after midnight.

Care to share loves elbow touches and 3 point shot attempts with Blatt / Lue?

It doesn't matter if Lues "orders" was to "get love involved more".

Blatt was the coach and he knew his players strengths and weaknesses. He knew the tools he had to work with.. and the sum of Loves skill set was not needed to maximize THAT TEAM. This is such basic understanding. Its really ABC's of understanding maximizing team concept. This is something you dont understand.

Love can play multiple ways(you think Blatt didn't know this? dont be dense).. but for THAT team, it wasn't suitable for him to be minny klove.

In Minny, KLove didnt have no lebron james. In minny, KLove didn't have no Kyrie Irving. What the heck is so hard to understand about this. Not to mention the other players and their games around him on that team.. Blatt knew how to maximize that team. He knew exactly what that cavs team needed in 2014/15, so they went out and got him what he needed and they went from great scrutiny night in, night out.. to the best basketball in the game with the warriors in the same league, over night.

but hey, if hating Blatt and his success makes you sleep better at night, knock yourself out. but miss me with your non sense.
You bring up the issue of "opinions" and then claim the sum of Love's skill set wasn't needed on Blatt's team as a way to defend his low output. And yet, we saw Love's skill set "fit in" better after Blatt was fired, which is a fact. One of the few notables Lue accomplished with the Cavs was getting solid production from his entire Big 3, which Blatt never did.

In addition, it's also a fact that players weren't respecting Blatt -- as LeeBuckeye kindly summarized. That's why Blatt's dismissal wasn't likely the result of any one issue or incident, but an accumulation of them all.

Lastly, claiming I'm "hating on Blatt and his success" is BS. The only reason I spoke up was to point out Blatt's poor integration of Love into the offense, what you conveniently left out.
 

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Blatt privately told people he trusted that it was either him or Love. Things seemed like they went south in hurry with those two.

Not sure I agree with LeBron being justified to emasculate him. At some point after retirement LeBron will realize he didn’t maximize his opportunities and the 4 guys around him failed because they actually needed the coaching he felt he didn’t personally need.

Running an offense that relies on a ball dominant player that turns the other four guys into end product finishers doesn’t work and leads to dodgy results when competition level increase in the playoffs. Ball movement creates energy and allows guys to have a rhythm. ISO ball will rarely win unless it at minimum paired with elite team defense. Good luck winning games kicking out to Austin Rivers with 3 seconds left after watching Harden pound the ball for 21 seconds. Just hope Beilein gets to implement what he truly wants and that anybody who doesn’t conform gets shipped out.
 

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Blatt got fired for freezing up on the sidelines, calling plays for players not on the floor, and the infamous attempt to call a timeout he didn’t have in a close playoff game. Lebron emasculated him, but it was justified. Blatt’s game plans were often very good, but he couldn’t keep up with his opponent for 48 minutes and could not draw up a 4th q inbounds pass to save his life. In case it needs to be pointed out, Blatt has not gotten back to the NBA. He probably never will. In NBA circles his rep is trash.

Beilein has a chance to be a good hire if he develops the young guys as a venerable instructor, but I can’t quite shake the feeling that he took the Cavs job to boost his retirement account.
He was a rookie that had issues with rule differences a couple of times coming from another country. Did pretty good. Idea he isn't an NBA isn't founded in anything. Had a great record.

Only guys who did better as rookies we're Kerr and Lue who won their first year.
 

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Any word on who the other assistant coaches are yet? I know JB Bickerstaff but have any others been announced? We got rid of Longabardi and the other dead weight left behind by Ty Lue right?
unfortunately Lombardi hasnt been sacked yet
 

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unfortunately Lombardi hasnt been sacked yet
Longabardi will always be one of the great Cleveland mysteries, IMO. It also perfectly illustrates the disparity between how critically a head coach is judged VS the way his staff is evaluated. The figurehead - the head coach - takes all the blame, but guys like Longo have gotten away scot-free for their malpractice and ineptitude, mostly based on the fact that there's no public/media pressure and nobody ever really calls for the head of an assistant coach.

Personally, I'd like to see Beilein and Bickerstaff clear house but ultimately, if they determine that retaining some/all of the existing staff is in their best interest and the best interest of the team, I can get behind that as well. Beilein earned my trust in his opening presser (to be fair, most of our head coaches have done the same) and it's going to stay that way until he does something to prove otherwise.
 

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Retaining Longo would be a massive disappointment and would immediately dampen my excitement. I keep hearing he’s gone but no word officially. All time worst assistant coach as the team made trips to the finals despite his level of ineptitude. Might need to investigate his family tree because he’s related to someone powerful in the organization.
 

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Retaining Longo would be a massive disappointment and would immediately dampen my excitement. I keep hearing he’s gone but no word officially. All time worst assistant coach as the team made trips to the finals despite his level of ineptitude. Might need to investigate his family tree because he’s related to someone powerful in the organization.
Bickerstaff will run the defense. So im ok with anything after that
 

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We heard Longabardi was gone and they were not going to renew his contact, but I have an nothing official.
 

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I still hold out hope Mark Price gets added to the Cavaliers coaching staff at some point.
 

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I still hold out hope Mark Price gets added to the Cavaliers coaching staff at some point.
That would be very cool. A few other coaches that could garner some consideration for assistant jobs are Bielein’s son, Patrick, his former Michigan assistants, Bryce Drew, & Kevin Ollie. The latter two were recently fired from Vanderbilt & UConn, respectively.
 

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Can't wait for summer league. Love to see what he does. Is Collin going? Is Zizic? Cedi seems too old now, but I'd love to see him work on playmaking
 

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Can't wait for summer league. Love to see what he does. Is Collin going? Is Zizic? Cedi seems too old now, but I'd love to see him work on playmaking
I saw an article saying that Sexton would travel to Salt Lake and Vegas with the summer league team to practice but I think it said that they haven't decided yet if he will play. I can't seem to find the article now, it was from a couple weeks ago.
 

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