Kevin Love - Miami Ground Machine

[Sebastian]

Wtf is this Kevin...

He did it to allay suspicions.

Wennberg can get very jealous.

 

[Alec]

Love isn’t setting a constructive tone for this young team. Moping, chucking, egregiously coasting. I get it. It sucks to be on a sucky team. But the org cashed you out and you got a ring. Have some honor.

 

[Jontibs]

Love isn’t setting a constructive tone for this young team. Moping, chucking, egregiously coasting.

I don't disagree but it is hard for any Vet who still wants to compete at the top level to effectively babysit a group of idiots, when winning is really not the main purpose.

 

[Alec]

I don't disagree but it is hard for any Vet who still wants to compete at the top level to effectively babysit a group of idiots, when winning is really not the main purpose.

I get it but let’s not pretend that there’s more than four teams in the league able to win this thing unless some injuries shake out a la GSW. He can still push himself to compete hard every night they play. He’s leaving a lot on the floor.

 

[ansatsusha80]

I don't disagree but it is hard for any Vet who still wants to compete at the top level to effectively babysit a group of idiots, when winning is really not the main purpose.

Love missed the playoffs for most of his career. He should be thanking Lebron for telling the organization to trade for him because he wasn't winning anything in Minnesota.

I don't, how a player that knew the organization was rebuilding yet signed a four year extension and then mope around like a kid. He could have easily turned down the extension and became a free agent this past offseason.

 

[wildfan]

30 points 6/11 from 3 give me more moping

 

[red.]

Kevin Love (right hip contusion) will not play Saturday vs. the Wolves.
Love had played in each of the Cav's last ten games, and was impressive on Friday, scoring 30 points to go along with seven rebounds, four assists and a season-high six 3-pointers in 35 minutes. However, he apparently injured his hip in the contest. Love has missed games earlier this season due to a back issue, but this is the first time he's popped up the injury report with a hip ailment since 2017. Larry Nance will likely slide into the starting lineup on Saturday. Kevin Porter, John Henson, Alfonzo McKinnie will divvy up extra minutes off the bench.

 

[CavsFanJapan]

Kevin Love (right hip contusion) will not play Saturday vs. the Wolves.
Love had played in each of the Cav's last ten games, and was impressive on Friday, scoring 30 points to go along with seven rebounds, four assists and a season-high six 3-pointers in 35 minutes. However, he apparently injured his hip in the contest. Love has missed games earlier this season due to a back issue, but this is the first time he's popped up the injury report with a hip ailment since 2017. Larry Nance will likely slide into the starting lineup on Saturday. Kevin Porter, John Henson, Alfonzo McKinnie will divvy up extra minutes off the bench.

Don’t need him to injure himself more in a winnable game. We’ll need him for the playoffs so this is smart move to rest him.......

 

[Sebastian]

I don't, how a player that knew the organization was rebuilding yet signed a four year extension and then mope around like a kid. He could have easily turned down the extension and became a free agent this past offseason.

They probably misled him as to the tenor of the rebuild.

"We promise you, we are looking to compete and make the playoffs this year."

Of course, they might have sincerely believed that... for about 20 games before reality disabused them of the notion.

On the other hand, Love may have had personal reasons to stay in Ohio, including a Swedish one in Columbus.

@jking948 @The Oi

 

[wildfan]

Read a tweet on hoopshype saying he was fine and was setting out because of back to back games. sorry had problems copying it.

Anyhow first thought was may be a trade is close to done.

 

[inliner311]

Read a tweet on hoopshype saying he was fine and was setting out because of back to back games. sorry had problems copying it.

Anyhow first thought was may be a trade is close to done.

I think they just want to keep him healthy. Also they want to see how the team plays without him. They don't want to hurt the development of the young players and trading Love might do that without guys to fill his role at PF. I personally would like to see Mckinnie get a start next time Love sits just to see if he can be a better short term solution than Nance at PF.

 

[Wham with the Right Hand]

I was looking at The Athletic's power rankings and the Cavs' record against the top 15 teams.

Against teams ranked 1-4 the Cavs are 0-8 (Bucks, Celtics, Mavs).

Against teams ranked 1-10 the Cavs are 0-14.

Against teams ranked 1-15 the Cavs are 2-16.

Against teams ranked 16-30 the Cavs are 8-6.

Which tells me they're average. Against teams ranked in the middle third (11-20) the Cavs are 4-4. We talk like they're a bottom feeder but that's not the case based on their results over 32 games.

I'm wondering if they might fall out of the top 10 of the draft if their young players improve (which they should) and they play more mediocre and bad teams (which they will).

Of the 50 remaining games 14 are against teams currently ranked in the top 10 while 36 games are against teams ranked 11-30, who the Cavs are 10-8 against. If the Cavs go 0-14 against the top 10 teams and 20-16 against the rest (IOW, same as they've done so far), they'll end up with 30 wins, a .366 winning percentage.

At this point in the season a team with a .366 winning percentage would have the 10th worst record.

Of course the wild card is whether they trade Thompson or Love, or both. A Henson trade might also be a factor.

I know this was off topic but there's no thread for general comments on the season.

 

[Lee]

I was looking at The Athletic's power rankings and the Cavs' record against the top 15 teams.

Against teams ranked 1-4 the Cavs are 0-8 (Bucks, Celtics, Mavs).

Against teams ranked 1-10 the Cavs are 0-14.

Against teams ranked 1-15 the Cavs are 2-16.

Against teams ranked 16-30 the Cavs are 8-6.

Which tells me they're average. Against teams ranked in the middle third (11-20) the Cavs are 4-4. We talk like they're a bottom feeder but that's not the case based on their results over 32 games.

I'm wondering if they might fall out of the top 10 of the draft if their young players improve (which they should) and they play more mediocre and bad teams (which they will).

Of the 50 remaining games 14 are against teams currently ranked in the top 10 while 36 games are against teams ranked 11-30, who the Cavs are 10-8 against. If the Cavs go 0-14 against the top 10 teams and 20-16 against the rest (IOW, same as they've done so far), they'll end up with 30 wins, a .366 winning percentage.

At this point in the season a team with a .366 winning percentage would have the 10th worst record.

Of course the wild card is whether they trade Thompson or Love, or both. A Henson trade might also be a factor.

I know this was off topic but there's no thread for general comments on the season.

Love it, great way to think...we wont win a game against a single contender, but the bottom 10 we will have a winning record. This team isn't good, but it doesn't suck. Seems horrible to say but I am ok with this, there is hope and we really are just collecting assets to build something in 2 years, for the first time our young players are actually being coached, that alone is exciting.

 

[The Human Q-Tip]

I was looking at The Athletic's power rankings and the Cavs' record against the top 15 teams.

Against teams ranked 1-4 the Cavs are 0-8 (Bucks, Celtics, Mavs).

Against teams ranked 1-10 the Cavs are 0-14.

Against teams ranked 1-15 the Cavs are 2-16.

Against teams ranked 16-30 the Cavs are 8-6.

Which tells me they're average. Against teams ranked in the middle third (11-20) the Cavs are 4-4. We talk like they're a bottom feeder but that's not the case based on their results over 32 games.

I'm not seeing the math as saying "average". By your numbers, the Cavs would end the season having gone 23-18 against teams in the bottom half of the league, and 5-36 against the top half. That's going 28-54. How is that "average?" 28 wins last year meant you had the 5th worst record in the league.

 

[Sebastian]

I'm not seeing the math as saying "average". By your numbers, the Cavs would end the season having gone 23-18 against teams in the bottom half of the league, and 5-36 against the top half. That's going 28-54. How is that "average?" 28 wins last year meant you had the 5th worst record in the league.

They better not have 28 wins this year.

I think, in honor of the great Larry Nance Sr., that 22 is an optimal number.