Kevin Love - Miami Ground Machine

[Out of the Rafters at the Q]

THAT I understand but the cavs can spend what they need to get a player that will be able to play and still be under the cap '

You're mistaken.

Whether the money is reimbursed by an insurance policy or not has nothing to do with the NBA, the CBA, or the salary cap.

 

[Kouki]

Doesn't his salary come off the books if he medically retires...?

If not that's p fucked up

 

[JJ_PR]

Basically and that's the reason why I would not buy him out. We as fans had to suffer from Love's horrible extension, so Love should suffer on the Cavs. Don't care how he feels or the league. Retire, give half the money back or sit on the bench. No other options.

These NBA contracts suck. You're stuck. If you buy a player out, the money should come off the books.

I disagree with this. It would help our cap flexibility greatly if we could agree on a buyout.

 

[red.]

I disagree with this. It would help our cap flexibility greatly if we could agree on a buyout.

That’s fine. I wasn’t asking for you to agree. Just my opinion and it still stands.

Buying Love out does nothing for the Cavs. I don’t see the point in having dead cap space for 6 years when Love contract expires in 2 years. I would rather keep Love here and he honor his contract while helping Mobley adjust to the NBA.

 

[Mr. Orange]

I disagree with this. It would help our cap flexibility greatly if we could agree on a buyout.

And who is taking that money?

 

[dms]

I disagree with this. It would help our cap flexibility greatly if we could agree on a buyout.

A buyout would hurt whatever future we have. It would let us spread out his salary over a number of years so we would get some immediate salary relief, but then his pay would cut into those future years. There is zero reason to do that, we don't need immediate cap relief so we can add that last piece. Better to take the pain of his contract now when we know we will suck then damage our chances later.

 

[Ohioplayer00]

It has to do almost entirely with the contract. Love was a good player in his time and he made significant contributions to the championship team. I don’t believe we could’ve won a title without his contributions and for that I will always be grateful.

People are upset that Love is tying up so much of our salary cap & contributing so little. Helping to get a well-respected coach, in John Bielein, fired and the occasional hissy fits that he has thrown certainly haven’t endeared himself to Cavs fans either. He needs to go.

First off Bielein got himself fired! The guy was a terrible hire. He would have failed at any NBA HC job. He is not a good fit for today’s NBA.
Secondly Love doesn’t have the street cred of a LBJ, Kobe, MJ etc to get a coach fired.
As Derek pointed out he can’t control that his body is breaking down but he will always have my gratitude because regardless of what people think about today’s Love….without him we don’t have a title in Cleveland and it would have been 57 years and counting without one.
And if we had him in 2015 we would have won back to back titles!!

 

[Ohioplayer00]

And who is taking that money?

Cap flexibility isn’t all about who will take the money. It can also used in absorbing a large $ contract through trade!

 

[dms]

That’s fine. I wasn’t asking for you to agree. Just my opinion and it still stands.

Buying Love out does nothing for the Cavs. I don’t see the point in having dead cap space for 6 years when Love contract expires in 2 years. I would rather keep Love here and he honor his contract while helping Mobley adjust to the NBA.

While there is no reason to do a buyout, there is also no reason to keep him and hope he teaches anyone anything. Love has become toxic to this team, the distractions he cause outweigh whatever positive presence he brings. I'd thank him for helping us get a chip and then ship him to whomever has a rack of used practice balls in trade.

 

[red.]

While there is no reason to do a buyout, there is also no reason to keep him and hope he teaches anyone anything. Love has become toxic to this team, the distractions he cause outweigh whatever positive presence he brings. I'd thank him for helping us get a chip and then ship him to whomever has a rack of used practice balls in trade.

All that’s fine and dandy..... I’m still not buying Love out. I wouldn’t waste 6 years of dead cap space when he expires in 2 years.

Also, Koby Altman knows how to get rid of players. Pretty easily. If Love was so bad, I’m sure Koby would’ve sent him home.

#TeamNoBuyOut!

 

[BankShot]

Obviously we need more than 25 games out of him, but Love next year at last seasons numbers would be ideal, 25 minutes/12 pts/7 boards. And I don't care about his salary, that money has already been spent, time to move forward and get the most production possible out of him.

 

[Mr. Orange]

Obviously we need more than 25 games out of him, but Love next year at last seasons numbers would be ideal, 25 minutes/12 pts/7 boards. And I don't care about his salary, that money has already been spent, time to move forward and get the most production possible out of him.

Good way to think of Love. Yes he is overpaid at this point but if he can give 25 min and be a mentor that would be great. Koby said he is a good locker room presence which is what we have needed. Yes he has had some outbursts (I think those were more with coaching and the refs than his teammates).

Yes he is being paid a lot of money. But going feom 4 finals trips to the dregs of the league can’t be easy. He is human after all. We can all do better with our emotions from time to time. Luckily we are not on camera for our bad moments.

 

[saymac]

You're mistaken.

Whether the money is reimbursed by an insurance policy or not has nothing to do with the NBA, the CBA, or the salary cap.

The thing we would be able to sign a player who would be on the court. He is not worth anything if he can not play and taking a roster spot ,he could retire with a medical and come back as a coach assistant.

 

[CavsKermit]

THE CAVS LIKE ALL PRO TEAMS HAVE INSURANCE POLICY ON PLAYERS THE CAVS WILL NOT HAVE TO PAY ALL HIS SALARY.

That's not how it works. If a player decides he's going to retire for medical reasons, league doctors perform a physical, review the medical records, etc. and concur, or not.

If they concur, then Love's contract comes off the Cavs books one year from that determination and he still gets that money. So either way, we're stuck with Love's money on the books this season.

 

[mds]

Unless we trade him to the Bengals for Simone Biles.