Let it all out. The Cavaliers Rant Thread

[Pierre Pan]

Certainly our worst most uninspired performance of the season, yet I’m neither surprised nor that upset. Like many others in here, I saw this coming weeks ago (on 3/5 I wrote that it looked like we were headed for not having home court advantage or heaven’s forbid , the play-in). Consequently between then and now, I’ve been imploring effort, change, the resurrection of DG, something, anything; I still had hope. However, the recent inexcusable losses to the Nets, Sixers, Bulls, et al just fueled the pessimism. Fedor , as evidenced by his last 2 articles (tonight’s recap and Garland’s burden) and plenty of posters are reaching my stage of grief (which I had reached earlier) now. Go Cavs!

I have no idea what to expect going forward; I’ve seen so much uninspired play and little sense of pride recently that at this point (and given our injury woes), I’m not sure who we would (not could) beat in a play-in game or playoff series .

 

[JMoneyYourHoney]

This is why you don’t assume you’re loaded with all-stars already based on the untested potential of young players and decide the draft will be useless for you for the rest of the decade. Turns out predicting the future is hard.

It was so obvious then that you don't go all-in on Mitchell, and it was even more obvious last offseason that bringing back Bickerstaff was going to yield more disappointing results.

Sacrificing Markannen and all that draft capital just to be in the same boat, 1st round fodder...nauseating.

 

[bushwick_bill]

Certainly our worst most uninspired performance of the season, yet I’m neither surprised nor that upset. Like many others in here, I saw this coming weeks ago (on 3/5 I wrote that it looked like we were headed for not having home court advantage or heaven’s forbid , the play-in). Consequently between then and now, I’ve been imploring effort, change, the resurrection of DG, something, anything; I still had hope. However, the recent inexcusable losses to the Nets, Sixers, Bulls, et al just fueled the pessimism. Fedor , as evidenced by his last 2 articles (tonight’s recap and Garland’s burden) and plenty of posters are reaching my stage of grief (which I had reached earlier) now. Go Cavs!

To end the night on a positive, looks like the Lakers are going to take care of the Pacers which helps a bit for fear of dropping to the 6th seed, which I am not there. Haliburton had another poor performance... I am not rooting against Haliburton but DG is not the only young PG having performance issues since coming back from an injury this season...

EDIT:
Haliburton has drained two 3's in the last 60 seconds to help him get a double double at the very least...

 

[bushwick_bill]

 

[dirtywax]

Chris Fedor is such a little bitch.

 

[Alec]

Glad to see everyone coming around.

 

[Rich]

Altman ain't going no where.

This team was amongst the very best, where its talent clicked like gang-busters.

It just so happens it happened when JBB was forced to do the opposite of what he wanted.

To me that is a clear indication that: 1) The Cavs have a nice collection of talent, with a good deep bench, though perhaps too much talent at the top that it doesn't fit, and 2) Their coach sucks so bad the team literally does better when he can't be him.

Altman has also uncovered some nice gems from the scrap heap; proper role players and even starters. He is not the issue.

Counterpoint: if the Cavs flame out again, does he really get to pick his 3rd coach? Has he shown enough to warrant that?

 

[AustinCarr]

Counterpoint: if the Cavs flame out again, does he really get to pick his 3rd coach? Has he shown enough to warrant that?

But did Altman had anything of substance to do with the Beilein hire? Correct me if I'm mistaken, but I thought that was largely established that he was a guy Gilbert wanted to hire.

 

[2 For The Brew]

But did Altman had anything of substance to do with the Beilein hire? Correct me if I'm mistaken, but I thought that was largely established that he was a Gilbert hire.

I don’t know how anybody can draw a conclusion on ultimate decision making in any organization from the outside. If Dan and Koby have a closed door meeting they’re the only two who know what was said.

- “Your call Koby.”
- “Hire Coach X. Tell the media it was solely your decision.”

Any reporter knows what the parties involved told him, not what actually happened. The two are not always the same.

I’d be surprised if the decision on any head coaching hire was 100% Koby and 0% Dan but it really doesn’t matter. Dan has 100% authority and can do what he likes, when he likes, for any reason or no reason at all.

We’ll find out about Koby and JBB soon enough.

 

[MattyIce8]

The coaching disadvantage we have every game is so painful.

 

[bushwick_bill]

 

[inliner311]

It was so obvious then that you don't go all-in on Mitchell, and it was even more obvious last offseason that bringing back Bickerstaff was going to yield more disappointing results.

Sacrificing Markannen and all that draft capital just to be in the same boat, 1st round fodder...nauseating.

I also think that Markkanen was the player that made what JBB wants to run a potential reality for the modern NBA. Koby not recognizing that but also sticking with JBB was also a big blunder. If you want to stick with your head coach, you better also understand what he wants to run and his limitations.

JBB really seem to have no desire or understanding until recently of running a modern NBA offense. I think a lot of playing the style they had success with this season was subtracting players due to injury that developed under JBB and the players who didn't develop under JBB moving out of necessity to another style of offense.

 

[Futuredome]

I bet Altman gets kicked "upstairs" . He had his chance, did not work out.

 

[foucault87]

Why do we keep rehashing the Mitchell deal? It was the right move and you do it 10/10.

 

[pinoycavsfan]

Did the offense tank when Dave Joerger left the consultancy job to go to Milwaukee?