Marvel Cinematic Universe Discussion Thread (Spoilers)

[macbdog]

Thor: Ragnarok: 6.762/10

Kernel said it best earlier: "colorful setting, MCU reference, site gag, repeat". It was certainly an amusing movie, but I certainly don't get the 9s being given. Hulk seemed like he was there just for comedic relief. Thor turned into Raiden from Mortal Kombat a couple times. Loki was simply sporadic, not 'mischievous'- goes from 'I'll just screw over my brother' to 'fuck it I'll go save my home planet'. That's not mischievous, that's fucking psychotic. Why did none of the ancients MFers in Valhalla remember the sister? So did Odin kill everyone when he banished her? I get Thor or Loki not knowing her, but the rest of the people in the court? And why then also not mention mum? It was just an asinine plot device, and if it matched the comic, well, the plot device sucked in the comic. Plus she had 'I'll just walk everywhere, whos in a hurry' evil guy syndrome as she finds out where all the cityfolk are hiding, walks there, then they all run out the back door and she fails to intercept them as they slowly climb down a mountain... Just all around stupid. Apart from 'Swords from Nothing!' I didn't really see her as this unstoppable force. They also way fucking overused Valhalla by Led Zeppelin. And how come the Balrog got his ass kicked by Thor, but Hel was useless against him? Swords from Nothing are -1000 but Hammer is +1000? Yet Hel can smash Thor's hammer and kick his non-Raiden ass all over the place, OUTSIDE of her power source Valhalla (which is apparently *everywhere* according to Hannibal Lecter)? I guess Hel is the Cleveland Cavaliers and the Balrog was the Orlando Magic, while Thor is the Brooklyn Nets. Those bizarro outcomes made no sense earlier this month and neither did this plot device.

Score breakdown:

Brought the funnies: +5 points
Gave me lots of Valhalla: +3 points
Overplayed Valhalla: -2 points
Putting Valhalla in my head for the rest of the night: +3 points
Got rid of Natalie Portman and gave me some chick with a mishapen head: -5 points
Thinking of 'The Gif' when Hulk got all misty-eyed seeing Black Widow: null points
The random 'What We Do In The Shadows' reference: +2 points
'Make it just like those Guardians movies! Hulk = Drax! Make the chick sassy like Gamura- and a mishapen head too! Turn Thor into Peter Quill! Make Loki into the racoon!'- -10 points
They managed to fit in zombies: +0.762 points

 

[Hurl Bruce]

View: https://twitter.com/Avengers/status/935863033032839170

 

[-Akronite-]

The trailer is great and I bet the movie will fucking rock.

But have they been clear on how they are handling Avengers 4? Originally Infinity War was going to be a two-parter but now that isn't the case? Will Thanos be resolved in this film? I guess we'll see but I hope they don't rush anything and blow their load after so much buildup.

 

[Hurl Bruce]

Who is the person throwing the spear that gets caught?

 

[col63onel]

I think CGI Josh Brolin Thanos looks like shit.

Other than that....HOLY BALLS I CAN'T WAIT FOR THIS MOVIE

 

[Chris]

The trailer is great and I bet the movie will fucking rock.

But have they been clear on how they are handling Avengers 4? Originally Infinity War was going to be a two-parter but now that isn't the case? Will Thanos be resolved in this film? I guess we'll see but I hope they don't rush anything and blow their load after so much buildup.

It's still two part I think, just not going the "Part 1" "Part 2" route.

 

[Sebastian]

Asgardians might be extinct after this film.

It appears he already had the Power stone before retrieving the Tesseract from Loki. Nova Corps must have been wiped out. And he adds the Mind Stone.

Thanos is industrious.

 

[macbdog]

But have they been clear on how they are handling Avengers 4? Originally Infinity War was going to be a two-parter but now that isn't the case? Will Thanos be resolved in this film? I guess we'll see but I hope they don't rush anything and blow their load after so much buildup.

It is, the next movie is titled "Avengers: Infinity War Homecoming".

I think CGI Josh Brolin Thanos looks like shit.

Other than that....HOLY BALLS I CAN'T WAIT FOR THIS MOVIE

Looks just as amazing as Steppenwolf. Let's see if the comic folk treat it similarly.

 

[Jack Brickman]

Looks just as amazing as Steppenwolf. Let's see if the comic folk treat it similarly.

I think the amount of nitpicking people do is proportional to how good the film is. If it's good, they'll overlook things like that. If it sucks, they won't.

To use a couple of DC films as an example, The Dark Knight probably had about as many dumb plot holes as The Dark Knight Rises, but you rarely hear them pointed out because it was just a much, much better film than Rises and Ledger's incredible performance helped overshadow what flaws there were in a way that Hardy's mumbling could not.

 

[Hurl Bruce]

View: https://twitter.com/ellie_rochford/status/935579900467204097

 

[Jack Brickman]

View: https://twitter.com/ellie_rochford/status/935579900467204097

I love that he's basically Peter Parker in real life too.

 

[Rich]

Thor: Ragnarok: 6.762/10

Kernel said it best earlier: "colorful setting, MCU reference, site gag, repeat". It was certainly an amusing movie, but I certainly don't get the 9s being given. Hulk seemed like he was there just for comedic relief. Thor turned into Raiden from Mortal Kombat a couple times. Loki was simply sporadic, not 'mischievous'- goes from 'I'll just screw over my brother' to 'fuck it I'll go save my home planet'. That's not mischievous, that's fucking psychotic. Why did none of the ancients MFers in Valhalla remember the sister? So did Odin kill everyone when he banished her? I get Thor or Loki not knowing her, but the rest of the people in the court? And why then also not mention mum? It was just an asinine plot device, and if it matched the comic, well, the plot device sucked in the comic. Plus she had 'I'll just walk everywhere, whos in a hurry' evil guy syndrome as she finds out where all the cityfolk are hiding, walks there, then they all run out the back door and she fails to intercept them as they slowly climb down a mountain... Just all around stupid. Apart from 'Swords from Nothing!' I didn't really see her as this unstoppable force. They also way fucking overused Valhalla by Led Zeppelin. And how come the Balrog got his ass kicked by Thor, but Hel was useless against him? Swords from Nothing are -1000 but Hammer is +1000? Yet Hel can smash Thor's hammer and kick his non-Raiden ass all over the place, OUTSIDE of her power source Valhalla (which is apparently *everywhere* according to Hannibal Lecter)? I guess Hel is the Cleveland Cavaliers and the Balrog was the Orlando Magic, while Thor is the Brooklyn Nets. Those bizarro outcomes made no sense earlier this month and neither did this plot device.

Score breakdown:

Brought the funnies: +5 points
Gave me lots of Valhalla: +3 points
Overplayed Valhalla: -2 points
Putting Valhalla in my head for the rest of the night: +3 points
Got rid of Natalie Portman and gave me some chick with a mishapen head: -5 points
Thinking of 'The Gif' when Hulk got all misty-eyed seeing Black Widow: null points
The random 'What We Do In The Shadows' reference: +2 points
'Make it just like those Guardians movies! Hulk = Drax! Make the chick sassy like Gamura- and a mishapen head too! Turn Thor into Peter Quill! Make Loki into the racoon!'- -10 points
They managed to fit in zombies: +0.762 points

Yea I was pretty disappointed with Thor.

Like, there's being a lighthearted superhero movie, and then there's being so totally unserious that none of the villains seem like any type of threat whatsoever.

 

[Derek]

I think Thor is probably pretty easy to write off.

Can the MCU function regularly without at least the occasional cameo from Cap or Iron Man though?

Makes a lot of sense why Stark Tower was abandoned by MCU though and moved upstate to a training facility.

Maybe their contracts are just lessened to brief appearances.

Are Falcon, War Machine, Scarlet Witch, etc. going to be done after Infinity War? Ant Man is lame for me, though I'm excited to see more Spiderman stuff.

They'll probably end up killing off him and Evans, replacing them with legacy characters.

Rhodey donned the Ironman armor on multiple occasions throughout history, and Bucky became Captain America following the latter's comic book death. Sam Wilson has done it as well in more recent stories.

As for Hemsworth, I've heard they are planning a Thor 4. Wouldn't surprise me to see him re-upped for another trilogy.

Assuming it's done correctly (no reason to assume otherwise), having the Fox properties will add more than enough to the universe to cover up the absences of a few guys that helped build it.

 

[Jack Brickman]

They'll probably end up killing off him and Evans, replacing them with legacy characters.

Rhodey donned the Ironman armor on multiple occasions throughout history, and Bucky became Captain America following the latter's comic book death. Sam Wilson has done it as well in more recent stories.

As for Hemsworth, I've heard they are planning a Thor 4. Wouldn't surprise me to see him re-upped for another trilogy.

Assuming it's done correctly (no reason to assume otherwise), having the Fox properties will add more than enough to the universe to cover up the absences of a few guys that helped build it.

Yeah, I know Evans wants out, but I haven't heard anything like that about Hemsworth. He seems to be having a great time playing Thor. Plus, I doubt they want to kill off the entire Phase One cast, and they've finally turned Thor into a fan favorite so it makes sense to keep him.

With Downey, it's probably more a monetary issue than anything since he makes an absurd amount of cash. Makes sense to transition him into a cameo role unless you kill him off entirely.

 

[gourimoko]

Bring in my man US Agent!