Michael Young on Moohead Radio Monday at 5

[moohead]

We'll pimp this site and field any questions or comments you have. Leave all your thoughts here, as we analyze and predict on Monday!

Moo

 

[Jon]

Please remind Michael that I still think he's depressing and when he denies it again this season, remind him of this recent post of his ...

1. Ira Newble cant play. - I know Danny Ferry is hoping to include Ira Newble's ending contract in some big deal. Fine, I can understand that but it doesnt mean you have to play him. Newble is worthless as a basketball player and worthless to the Cavaliers. This new "system" needs players who can "drive and kick." Drive and kick connates having players who can dribble, pass and shoot 3 things foreign to Newble. His adequate defensive abilities doesnt begin to compensate for the fact that he may be the worst offensive swingman in the NBA. Rewarding him for basically showing up on time is no way run a basketball team. Without a guaranteed contract would Ira Newble make any NBA roster let alone a playoff team with supposed title aspirations?

2. Donyell Marshall is done. - Sometime after signing with the Cavaliers Marshall has looked at his portrait like Dorian Gray. He cant do anything anymore. Last year he stopped rebounding and making shots commiserate with the number of open looks he gets. Now, he looks like he is 45 years old. If he isnt rebounding and cant get his shot off anymore let alone have it go in what is there to put up with his soft and bad defense.

3. Damon Jones needs to go. - I know for a fact that the Cavalaiers know themselves that Jones' release is too slow for him to adequately space the floor. He can be too easily chased off his shot and he isnt a good shooter off the bounce. We know that he cant guard a weeble wobble and he is incapable to running an NBA offense because he cant handle against ball pressure since he doesnt have the quickness to beat anyone off the dribble. He doesnt want to be here so buy him out and get the roster spot.

4. Dwayne Jones stinks. - This guy is a smaller Boumtje-Boumtje. He is less comfortable touching a basketball than Adonal Foyle and Ben Wallace. He looks like an NFL offensive lineman after inadvertantly catching a tipped pass. Yes, he can rebound but he is to big man and offense to what Newble is to SFs and offense. If he is your 3rd big man off the bench then you are in dire trouble.

5. Drew Gooden will never be more than what he is now. - If I hear another Cavalier coach talk about how talented Gooden is I will bitch slap them. If he was so talented they would expand his role and not mitigate his negative impact to the team like they have done the past 2 years. With Varejao apparently having Eternal Sunshine of the Spotless Mind contract delusions this was the perfect chance for Gooden to show the Cavaliers that they didnt need Varejao and that he could be a 35+ minute a night player who justifies their vouching for all his talent. But, instead of grabbing the bull by the horns Gooden is stinking up the preseason. There is a reason why every coach Gooden has had has kept a Sword of Damocles over his head in order to get something out of him. Leave him to his own devices and he will be crap.

6. The Cavaliers need Varejao. - Pavlovic would add something if nothing but never having to see Newble in uniform ever again but it is clear that with Gooden still not reporting to camp from Drewland Varejao leverage is getting better everyday the season gets closer. There is no place to go with Simmons injured when Gooden goes to Drewland and the dropoff from Varejao to Donyell Marshall and Dwayne Jones is astronomic.


7. Be prepared for a serious drop off this season. - The organization seems resigned to this realization. Varejao and Pavlovic have basically sabatoged the season. If their bargaining tactic is hoping the guys that they sweated, fought and bled with for 96 games do bad then you have to wonder about their character and their intelligence given the reality of the current NBA FA market.

This current bench is as bad as any Wittman-Lucas team and an anchor that will weigh down the team even more.

This team is at best a 6-8 playoff seed. Despite James talent and heroics the Cavaliers were a team that was greater than the sum of its parts and the parts arent there and are currently being replaced by rusted out pieces of scrap.

Prepare for a draft pick in the teens.

 

[Douglar]

We'll pimp this site and field any questions or comments you have. Leave all your thoughts here, as we analyze and predict on Monday!

Is this your special "Mike Brown will get fired before the end of the 2006-07 season" episode?

 

[hendo24]

As depressing as it may be Jon, it's the truth and you don't seem to want to see the truth about this years team.

 

[TheAdmin]

Its kind of hard to call it the truth until at least one game is played. However I wouldn't bet against most of it shaking out that way.

 

[moohead]

Douglar:

No. This will be my "maybe Douglar will actually listen to the show" program so you can accurately depict what I say. I have been a Mike Brown supporter. At least defensively....

I am a "Romeo gets fired" guy. I still feel he is inept. The Cavs are gonna eat this year so they can get better in a year or two. Facts is facts.

Moo

 

[Jon]

As depressing as it may be Jon, it's the truth and you don't seem to want to see the truth about this years team.

No. It's not even a half truth.

It puts too much emphasis on role players who are unimportant, it ignores the potential of improvement from other players, and doesn't even consider future deals that may bring back Andy/Sasha and/or someone else to fill their role if what we have isn't getting the job done.

In other words, it's the typical sort of gloom & doom prediction that people like MYoung23 were making last year just before we went on a run to the NBA finals.

Ferry & Brown may be aggravatingly stubborn and conservative, but they're not stupid.

It's a no brainer to predict the team will take a step-backward as they try to find people to fill Andy and Sasha's shoes and once again try to grasp yet another offensive system, but that doesn't mean they won't figure it out and get rolling. It may cost them a chance to get a 56-win season, but I don't see how it's going to drop them to the 6-8 seed level.

I mean seriously 6-8 seed?

In '07 the 6th seed won 41 games.

Heck, we won 42 games in Silas's last season.

In case you forgot let me remind you of the talent level of that team:

1) LeBron was 27/7/7, terrific year, but he did even better the next.
2) Ira Newble was our starting SG
3) Anderson appeared in only 54 games for 16 MPG.
4) Sasha played very little.
5) A progressively self-destructing JMac and E Snow were our PGs.
6) Our off the bench was Tractor Traylor
7) Our 3-pt shooters off the bench included Lucious Harris, Jiri Welsh, and Luke Jackson

So get real. We could bring walk-ins off the street and put them around LeBron/Drew/Z/Larry/Gibson and still reach 42 wins.

 

[Douglar]

Douglar:

No. This will be my "maybe Douglar will actually listen to the show" program so you can accurately depict what I say. I have been a Mike Brown supporter. At least defensively....

I'm sorry Moo, didn't mean to say you were. I'm sure you're usual self.

I was just commenting on MYoung's predictions last winter in his board. He was advocating the notions that the team was going to miss the playoffs and that Brown would get fired before the end of the season. Myoung knows his basketball, but he's got such an axe to grind with certain parts of the coaching staff that his preditions are skewed more than a little negative at times. Like to the point that it gets "ha-ha" funny.

[edit]

I listened to the show and I gotta say that 42-40 season prediction from the both of you was worth a chuckle.

 

[hendo24]

No. It's not even a half truth.

It puts too much emphasis on role players who are unimportant, it ignores the potential of improvement from other players, and doesn't even consider future deals that may bring back Andy/Sasha and/or someone else to fill their role if what we have isn't getting the job done.

In other words, it's the typical sort of gloom & doom prediction that people like MYoung23 were making last year just before we went on a run to the NBA finals.

Ferry & Brown may be aggravatingly stubborn and conservative, but they're not stupid.

It's a no brainer to predict the team will take a step-backward as they try to find people to fill Andy and Sasha's shoes and once again try to grasp yet another offensive system, but that doesn't mean they won't figure it out and get rolling. It may cost them a chance to get a 56-win season, but I don't see how it's going to drop them to the 6-8 seed level.

I mean seriously 6-8 seed?

In '07 the 6th seed won 41 games.

Heck, we won 42 games in Silas's last season.

In case you forgot let me remind you of the talent level of that team:

1) LeBron was 27/7/7, terrific year, but he did even better the next.
2) Ira Newble was our starting SG
3) Anderson appeared in only 54 games for 16 MPG.
4) Sasha played very little.
5) A progressively self-destructing JMac and E Snow were our PGs.
6) Our off the bench was Tractor Traylor
7) Our 3-pt shooters off the bench included Lucious Harris, Jiri Welsh, and Luke Jackson

So get real. We could bring walk-ins off the street and put them around LeBron/Drew/Z/Larry/Gibson and still reach 42 wins.

We'll see.

 

[TyGuy]

Mooo, when are you going to feature me as a guest on the show hmm?

 

[Jon]

I listened to the show and I gotta say that 42-40 season prediction from the both of you was worth a chuckle.

Well, if he's actually talking cavs/indians/browns and not just practicing his cow-farting for once I'll have to have a listen.

 

[moohead]

We always talk Cleveland sports. You simply don't listen. And you don't have to. Thanks.

The Bovine Management

PS- 42-40 puts the Cavs on the playoff bubble. The problem is less Andy than it is PG and a lack of usable bench depth. If Ira Newble gets a lot of burn, 42-40 may be generous.

 

[chiefwahoo]

PS- 42-40 puts the Cavs on the playoff bubble. The problem is less Andy than it is PG and a lack of usable bench depth. If Ira Newble gets a lot of burn, 42-40 may be generous.

You guys are completely insane if you honestly believe this is only a 42 win team. We haven't had a true PG for years now and have still won 42, 50, and 50. You're telling me that AV and Sasha are that big of a blow? Gimme a break.

 

[Man Called X]

We always talk Cleveland sports. You simply don't listen. And you don't have to. Thanks.

The Bovine Management

PS- 42-40 puts the Cavs on the playoff bubble. The problem is less Andy than it is PG and a lack of usable bench depth. If Ira Newble gets a lot of burn, 42-40 may be generous.

And it is comments like that which make me glad I haven't listened in a very long time. Everything that happens is always looked at as the biggest disaster to ever hit a Cleveland sports team. You basically repeat that mantra on every broadcast. I'm honestly starting to believe you just enjoy being the eternal pessimist.

 

[Jon]

We always talk Cleveland sports. You simply don't listen. And you don't have to. Thanks.

I didn't say "cleveland sports", I explicitly said Browns/Cavs/Indians, since you seem to think Youngstown is part of Cleveland.

Even with MYoung on your show yesterday, the Cavs season starting, the Brown's winning on Sunday, and the World Series just ending you still went "blackhole" for the final 24 minutes of the program.

And trust me, I haven't been listening. Adding Lee to the show was fine, but you seem to think you need to act as comic relief, and it's not working.

Did Pete Franklin have problems filling up his time slot talking about sports? Does Bruce Drennan over on STO?

No.

So that's what I've been doing. Rather than downloading and listening to your archive, I'm just streaming a recording of All Bets are Off using a slingbox and listening to the audio.

I thought you started doing this because you thought Cleveland was lacking in a local sports shows? You started out by reaching out to the fans on the boards. You even once had your own section on this board and elicited comments. You used to read posts from the boards and comment (flame) them. Apparently your show has evolved? In to what, I don't know, but you seem to be pretty casual about dismissing the opinion of the sort of fan you supposedly invented the show for.

Good luck with the Youngstown market ...