NCAA tells Ohio State it finds no new violations; won't face 'failure to monitor' cha

[Tornicade]

Re: NCAA tells Ohio State it finds no new violations; won't face 'failure to monitor'

Just showing that even when a major program recieves a major blow it can come back relatively quickly.

And you are obviously in denial about Tressell lying. So he didnt sign the compliance letter stating he had no knowledge of any violations months after receiving the email? oh wait, he was worried about the federal investigation.

Some of you homers just dont get it on Tressell. The major issue isnt the violation the players committed, its the fact he knew for 9 months and never went to the NCAA or the university officials. The only reason he ended up confessing was because he got caught. He should have been fired a month before he was actually fired and that in my guess costs the university scholarships for sticking by Tressell to long.

Any argument about memorabilia or pay the players or any crap like that is just completely arguing off the subject. The major violation is the fact the head coach hid the fact he knew players were ineligible and he let them play. How they became ineligible is not important.

Bottom line Tressel fucked up big time and hopefully it doesnt cost the university much more than a few scholarships. I am guessing it will be more than 5. Especially since the coach is no longer around to punish.

Ive already stated Tressel made a poor decision in signing a document without presenting it to his attorney first. People sign shit all the time with legalese that dont mean shit and rarely hold up in court..

I assure you no evidence will be presented of any memorbilia being signed and traded for tats by current OSU players since april.and tressel had a longstanding track record of reporting secondary violations.

It took 9 months for the Fbi Investigation to complete and send the approiate letter to the Ohio State University. It means that if Tressel had forwarded the information nothing would of happened until the investigation was complete.

Even the e mails show clearly that once they arrested rife and began prosecution nothing was going to be released to anyone.

The players would not likely have been suspended under these circumstances.

Tressel did two things wrong. he didnt forward the information.
He signed the wrong paper

He has been fired. It was his mistake. players are being treated as ineligible for games that noone would of had the informatin they needed to take action anyways had he had forwarded.

3 years probation 5 scholarships for two years seems like a rather stern penalty for what actually happened. I dont see anything more extensive.

None of these penalties would be for the players profiting on NCAA trademarked merchandise. They got five games for that. Im not sure how you can construe Tressel losing his job over the ordeal to be shirking penalties? that was the ultimate penalty.

As an Institution OSU had no culpability. and acted with a conscice manner not many University Compliance departments are capable of.

the NCAA has already ruled there was no lack of institutional control and maybe you dont realize that if OHio state gets an overly harsh penalty. they can forget about Universities self reporting. Imposing their own penalties and taking extra measures to stay within the NCAA guidelines. Other Universities will take notice and ask themselves if they need to shoot their own foot off when dealing with the NCAA.

Parents selling kids to schools, Schools funneling money to fake scouting rporting agencies whose sole purpose is to recruit kids. PLayers getting paid for stuff they dont own.

Those are the NCAA enemies right now. The message to coaches are loud and clear. If you sign false statements. youll get fired. NCAA couldnt hope for a better message.

politically, situationally, and common sense wise death penalties and bowl bans were media sensationalizing

 

[Lee]

Re: NCAA tells Ohio State it finds no new violations; won't face 'failure to monitor'

Ive already stated Tressel made a poor decision in signing a document without presenting it to his attorney first. People sign shit all the time with legalese that dont mean shit and rarely hold up in court..

I assure you no evidence will be presented of any memorbilia being signed and traded for tats by current OSU players since april.and tressel had a longstanding track record of reporting secondary violations.

It took 9 months for the Fbi Investigation to complete and send the approiate letter to the Ohio State University. It means that if Tressel had forwarded the information nothing would of happened until the investigation was complete.

Even the e mails show clearly that once they arrested rife and began prosecution nothing was going to be released to anyone.

The players would not likely have been suspended under these circumstances.

Tressel did two things wrong. he didnt forward the information.
He signed the wrong paper

He has been fired. It was his mistake. players are being treated as ineligible for games that noone would of had the informatin they needed to take action anyways had he had forwarded.

3 years probation 5 scholarships for two years seems like a rather stern penalty for what actually happened. I dont see anything more extensive.

None of these penalties would be for the players profiting on NCAA trademarked merchandise. They got five games for that. Im not sure how you can construe Tressel losing his job over the ordeal to be shirking penalties? that was the ultimate penalty.

As an Institution OSU had no culpability. and acted with a conscice manner not many University Compliance departments are capable of.

the NCAA has already ruled there was no lack of institutional control and maybe you dont realize that if OHio state gets an overly harsh penalty. they can forget about Universities self reporting. Imposing their own penalties and taking extra measures to stay within the NCAA guidelines. Other Universities will take notice and ask themselves if they need to shoot their own foot off when dealing with the NCAA.

Parents selling kids to schools, Schools funneling money to fake scouting rporting agencies whose sole purpose is to recruit kids. PLayers getting paid for stuff they dont own.

Those are the NCAA enemies right now. The message to coaches are loud and clear. If you sign false statements. youll get fired. NCAA couldnt hope for a better message.

politically, situationally, and common sense wise death penalties and bowl bans were media sensationalizing

Really? A coach who makes 3-4 million a year just signed a letter without having a lawyer look at it and didnt know the concequences. Is Tressel Barney Fife? Your thought proccess is so far off reality its laughable.

Tressell had the keys to a billion dollar bussiness. He was highly compensated for his efforts. He was well aware of what he was signing and even if he wasnt it would 100% hold up in court. This is not some guy on peoples court here who signed something without thinking about it. This is the head coach of one of the top programs in the entire nation.

And yes, I am so sure the NCAA is worried about universities not wanting to self report.

The NCAA doesnt give a fuck about scaring institutions away from self reporting. The want to put the fear of G-d into these institutions and they have. The NCAA is one of the most unfair and biased orginizations I have ever seen. If they are mad at OSU, they will slap them with a huge penalty...whether they deserve it or not.

Do i think they deserve to lose a bowl? No, not if Gee and Smith truly didnt know. And i can believe they didnt know. Should they have fired Tressel right away? Yes, and I think the NCAA will point this out to them. There was some violations Tressell was associated at YSU. He has been accused of other violations from some not so trust worthy sources. But here is the issue, they become more trust worthy once you realize the Tressel is a proven liar.

Bottom line, Tressel is a scumbag that doesnt deserve the martyr tag the OSU fans are putting in him. He lied and he 100% knew what he was doing. If he didnt know, thats even worse. Yes OSU seems to be singled out a bit more than most other universities in trouble right now, but such is life as one of the top dogs (ask USC or Miami how that feels, ie they were singled out allot too) But, even if you do lose a bowl (seems unlikely at this point) I used the U of Miami example to show how a team can come back relatively quickly from such a punishment. OSU lost a coach. Will lose some scholarships, but I see no reason why OSU wont be back competing in BSC bowls in the very near future.

 

[Tornicade]

Re: NCAA tells Ohio State it finds no new violations; won't face 'failure to monitor'

Tressel a scumbag?

The guy has and will continue to be a positive contributing member to the community than you will ever be. maybe thats whats really pissing you off

 

[The Voice]

Re: NCAA tells Ohio State it finds no new violations; won't face 'failure to monitor'

Tressel a scumbag?

The guy has and will continue to be a positive contributing member to the community than you will ever be. maybe thats whats really pissing you off

Russo/Demora donated tons of money to the community and charity. I guess that makes them great people. Just because you have money and time to give doesn't make you a great person.

In the end it's all about tax write off's.

 

[Tornicade]

Re: NCAA tells Ohio State it finds no new violations; won't face 'failure to monitor'

Russo/Demora donated tons of money to the community and charity. I guess that makes them great people. Just because you have money and time to give doesn't make you a great person.

In the end it's all about tax write off's.

Iw asnt even referring to charity contributions

 

[Randolphkeys]

Re: NCAA tells Ohio State it finds no new violations; won't face 'failure to monitor'

Ive already stated Tressel made a poor decision in signing a document without presenting it to his attorney first. People sign shit all the time with legalese that dont mean shit and rarely hold up in court..

Tressel first read that document in 1986, when he first became a college head coach. All NCAA head coaches sign the same document annually, so he had 25 opportunities to read what he was signing. He knew what he was doing, he was just hoping nobody would notice.

Look, I think Tressel made a huge mistake in not taking a written legal document seriously. I also think he doesn't deserve to have such a tarnished legacy. Tressel tried to go above and beyond for some athletes to his own detriment, but it shouldn't outweigh all of the good he has done in his career. The second half of this post makes sense from a logical perspective. The problem with the NCAA -- and really any bureaucracy that knows it doesn't actually work efficiently -- is that they live to have good press on working efficiently once and a while to overcome the obvious: they aren't remotely close to being in control of what they are supposed to do 99% of the time.

It's like the neighborhood idiot cop who writes some jaywalking tickets once a week in front of a whorehouse. You can complain about how he does his job, but jaywalking is still illegal.