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Odell Beckham Jr.,: Seatbelts Ruin Lives

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Will the Browns look better or worse after this?

  • Browns got back to being a top 10 offense

    Votes: 23 54.8%
  • Browns will recover a but but it's too little to late to make the playoffs

    Votes: 6 14.3%
  • Odell wasn't the problem but he wasn't the solution either

    Votes: 11 26.2%
  • The offense goes from bad to badderer, but the team stays the course

    Votes: 1 2.4%
  • Stefanski has to fall on his own sword

    Votes: 1 2.4%
  • Baker gets traded in the off season

    Votes: 0 0.0%

  • Total voters
    42
"I couldn't sit here and tell you whether I'm going to be here, want to be here, don't want to be here."

All players happy to be where they are say this

In his defense, he shouldn't be happy.

None of them should be.

And they should express that anger sooner rather than later.

If Mssr. Kitchens has lost the confidence of his players, I'd rather it manifest this year, rather than wasting another season on a dead man coaching.
 
If Kitchens stays, I think OBJ demands a trade.

If we happen to fire Freddie and hire someone like Riley, I think he's here for another year. Or, at least until the trade deadline next year if nothing changes.
 
I think OBJ knows exactly what he’s doing with these comments - he (the brand) is being talked about.

The best pub is the free kind.
 
The person behind IB does a fantastic job of wording things so they aren't 'wrong' on their wild specualtion- 'probably requesting a trade', 'upset not but things could change', etc. They probably work as a phone psychic. IB reads tea leaves well, that's about it; his/her sources are probably about as good as most posters here. Ann frankly it doesn't take sources to think that OBJ could be unhappy with his usage and the situation here- he wasn't exactly jumping through hoops to be in Cleveland this summer. Guessing OBJ might be unhappy after seeing less targets, dropping more footballs than Greg Little, and disappearing from the national conversation on a mediocre football team doesn't require the Dionne Warwick of sports Twitter to see, though. Folks are showing their heads far up their rectum if they think OBJ is happy here.
 
As were AB and Jalen Ramsey.

Contracts don’t mean what they used to mean.

The question is how willing Dorsey is to sell low.

I am in the "math was 3 1st round picks" camp as it was essentially #17+1st rounder Peppers+1st rounder Danny Shelton, + the 5th rounder given up in the Danny Shelton trade to get the 3rd rounder for him.

Wouldn't move him for less than a top-25 1st round pick, especially given whatever effect it would have on Jarvis.

We'd be better off making some coordinator/position coach changes and possibly head coach changes as part of trying to make it work, than take a 2nd rounder.
 
OBJ and Juice aren’t going anywhere next JFC.


Fire an underachieving coach that has shown no mastery over an facet of the game, or trade the prized acquisition after he, silently, expresses annoyance at the improper way the Offense has been handled?

Easy answer, no?
 
If I were OBJ I would not be happy. The team has struggled. They thought it would easy and its been everything but easy. That being said, not happy does not equal "I want traded." OBJ needs to get to work. This off season he, Landry and Baker and a few others, need to go somewhere and have a month long work out session. Get the timing down, get the little things down. Get familiar with each other, learn to trust each other. Then and only then can we become the '91-'93 Cowboys, and I think we have that potential.
 
If Kitchens stays, I think OBJ demands a trade.

If we happen to fire Freddie and hire someone like Riley, I think he's here for another year. Or, at least until the trade deadline next year if nothing changes.
I don't think the coach matters. OBJ wants to be many things, and being a primary target is only one. He is a Hollywood type; it's why he wears million dollar watches on the field, it's why he wears banned visors, and why he celebrates a loss by giving the opposing QB his cleats. He never wanted to leave NY for Cleveland, regardless of whether his bff plays here or not.
 
I don't think the coach matters. OBJ wants to be many things, and being a primary target is only one. He is a Hollywood type; it's why he wears million dollar watches on the field, it's why he wears banned visors, and why he celebrates a loss by giving the opposing QB his cleats. He never wanted to leave NY for Cleveland, regardless of whether his bff plays here or not.

There are banned visors, banned shoes and jersey swaps in every NFL game. Are you seeing things with Goodell colored glasses lol
 
To be fair, I don’t think he leaves at all, nor do I see him forcing his way out with his best friend here.

Was just a couple vague ass quotes and he’s been through this shit before and got dealt so it’s kind of expected.

I think a solid off season working with Baker and *hopefully* a coaching change will do wonders for how well Odell plays in our offense.

He should be leaps and bounds better next season.
 

If you don’t want to watch the whole interview here are the highlights from Cleveland.com Does this really sound like a guy who wants out? It’s an open and honest interview where Odell is completely transparent. Of course the shitty Cleveland media is jumping to the quotes that can be twisted and turned into negativity. Nobody is strongly reporting where he says he sees how special this can be and that there is no place he’d rather be right.
 
Odell is no stranger to the media. The more vague your response, the more wild they will run with it to create a story or fill a narrative.
 

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