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Preseason Game 7: Pacers @ Cavs, Tuesday, Oct. 23, 2012, 7:00pm ET

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not to take anything away from zeller, hes been good so far, no complaints. very efficient. but PJ can do so much more on the floor. hes a difference maker he can make things happen. zeller jus goes out there and adds a few buckets but doesnt really leave an impression on the game.

kyrie, waiters, and PJ would be a dangerous 1,2,3. and PJ would add size. you can put him at 2,3,4, or even 5 being 6'11. would definetly cause match up problems.

Zeller is a solid big. He really doesn't do anything exceptional, however he also doesn't have many weaknesses. We should be able to pencil him in as a backup 4/5 for the next decade - in the NBA Draft are there players available with more upside potential, of course. But sometimes the best players for your team are the players who don't leave an impression on the game. Garbage points, hustle stats - stuff away from the box score, but is an integral aspect of a championship team.

I think PJIII has all the tools to be a dominate player - OKC was a great organization for him to fall to - that might have saved his career (going to a team that has strong player development, championship aspirations).
 
My biggest problem with Perry Jones is he will always be a mediocre to average defender, and that is something we can't afford with our PG and SG still quite young and raw in terms of guarding the perimeter. Jones isn't laterally quick enough to hang with 3s and isn't strong enough to bang with 4s down low. We already have enough "tweeners" on the team who struggle on defense, no reason to add more when we can get a legit center (Zeller) who fills a big need and was a higher rated prospect.
 
PJ III isn't here. Nor is Bynum, LBJ or Amare (we could have had him, but didn't want to trade JJ - really! :chuckles:).
Let's move on.

Back on topic: nice all-around game for Gee, from what I can gather from the stats. Good for him.

CJ Miles seems to shape into the inefficient chucker I feared him to be. As long as he plays better D than Jamison, that's an improvement, I guess.
 
Did Perry Jones play in this game?

No reason to bring him up in here.

If you have to start a sentence with "I know this doesn't belong in this thread" or anything of that sort.. don't post it.
 
Did Perry Jones play in this game?

No reason to bring him up in here.

If you have to start a sentence with "I know this doesn't belong in this thread" or anything of that sort.. don't post it.

Agreed, I came here to see If there were any real updates and all I found was Perry Jones talk,There Is a thread for that In the Cavs talk section. However from what I seen and hard Zeller might be the kind of player we need and I am glad to hear his progression Is right on par. That said Waiters Is going to have to come Into his own and I hope he does. If he does watch out... We got a star. All I want from this team this year Is promise and something to get excited for and a high Draft pick next year.
 
Zeller is a solid big. He really doesn't do anything exceptional, however he also doesn't have many weaknesses. We should be able to pencil him in as a backup 4/5 for the next decade - in the NBA Draft are there players available with more upside potential, of course. But sometimes the best players for your team are the players who don't leave an impression on the game. Garbage points, hustle stats - stuff away from the box score, but is an integral aspect of a championship team.

I think PJIII has all the tools to be a dominate player - OKC was a great organization for him to fall to - that might have saved his career (going to a team that has strong player development, championship aspirations).

Zeller will be starting much sooner than expected. You could just as well pen him in at starting center for the next decade.
 
I am glad to see Zeller starting right away...but a question to be asked...Does Varejao stay at PF all year or does he get traded? If so, how soon? I've had mixed thoughts about keeping and trading Andy but feel he'll be traded now that Zeller is on the rise, unfortunately.
 
people callinng zellera backup center are selling what i think will be the biggest steal in the draft short. If and when he bulks up he will be a solid pro, his ability to spread the floor is gonna be vital for us cause we have to drives in the backcourt. He also moves very well without the ball and runs the floo with the best of them. The only centers he will have a problem with are d12, bynum, and cousins. At the 17 pick getting an above average center is getting great value
 
Its preseaon guys....lets temper the Zeller expectations until we see how the real games go..
 
Did Perry Jones play in this game?

No reason to bring him up in here.

If you have to start a sentence with "I know this doesn't belong in this thread" or anything of that sort.. don't post it.

I know this doesnt belong in this thread, but I like turtles.
 
Its preseaon guys....lets temper the Zeller expectations until we see how the real games go..

The expectation that he can start and contribute solidy for 20-25 minutes a game. Is that stellar expectaitions now adays?

Outsid eof just seeing what he can do on the court and his natural improvement over 7 games as well as Scottfueling the flames. Its too late to stop the Zeller Train. He can post up, pass, run the court, shoot from range and has stong fundamentals along with a great game IQ.. If he had only played one college seaosn they would be hyping him up as a rookie of the year candidate.
 

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