RBF League 2023 - Gary Barnidge Classic!

[Jack Brickman]

This team is predicted to go 0-13.

Meh. I know what I'm doing. Will be surprised if I miss. Barring a ton of injuries of course.

 

[Randolphkeys]

QB - Drew Brees/Jared Goff platoon

RB - Alvin Kamara
Tarik Cohen
Kellen Ballage
Ito Smith

WR - Julian Edelman
Amari Cooper
Cooper Kupp
Anthony Miller

TE - Travis Kelce
Noah Fant

D - Denver

K - Mason Crosby

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I feel like my whole season rides on New Orleans and Chicago's offense not failing miserably. Still love the team right now.

 

[SixPACK]

QB - MITCHY / Darnold (last round possibly keeper pick)
WR - Corey Davis / Sutton / Marquisse Brown / Tyrell Williams
RB - Christian McCaff / Josh Jacobs / Melvin Gordon / Peyton Barber / Chase Edmonds
TE - Engram

QB - Obviously hoping for Mitchellllllll to get hundreds of yards of rushing and some TD's. His WR's aren't fantastic, TE's are good, and has nice pass-catching RB's. I waited on QB and liked him over Lamar/Ben. Darnold was obviously a shot in the dark keeper for next year. I liked him over Damien Harris.

WR - pretty garbage. It is basically all WR's that are either going to get me 100 total points, or all 4 are "breakout" candidates on their teams. This position is going to make or break me.

RB - Obviously stacked. Took a gamble on Gordon coming back or being traded to HOU or somewhere. And really, as long as I can limp by with a few wins before he comes back later in the year, I should be fine. When I have these 3 in my lineup, they need to carry me. Barber is a dart throw. Edmonds is of course just a stash incase DJ goes down.

TE - Probably the best TE after the top-tier 1 players (Kelce, Ertz, Kitty). OBJ gone. Tate suspended for 4 games. Shepherd should see good targets and of course Barkley. But he should see insane targets, esp. RZ.

Unless my WR's overperform and at least 2 of them have a breakout year, I probably will not make the playoffs. But I don't think I will finish last. My keepers didn't workout and honestly I hate having the 6th pick.

Good luck!

 

[PIP]

My team is trash and that’s how I like it.

 

[The Wizard of Moz]

Keenan Allen was the safe pick after my RCF fantasy life flashed before my eyes after finishing 13th last year

Probably the most boring guy I could have picked at that spot, but his volatility was the lowest of the guys considered. As long as he doesn’t get hurt he’s due for a long, productive, Boring season

 

[Randolphkeys]

Keenan Allen was the safe pick after my RCF fantasy life flashed before my eyes after finishing 13th last year

Probably the most boring guy I could have picked at that spot, but his volatility was the lowest of the guys considered. As long as he doesn’t get hurt he’s due for a long, productive, Boring season

When has Keenan Allen ever disappointed fantasy owners with a lengthy injury, right?

 

[Jack Brickman]

When has Keenan Allen ever disappointed fantasy owners with a lengthy injury, right?

Not since like four years ago. He's been pretty healthy otherwise aside from costing me a playoff game last year, but that was just a single game injury. As far as I can recall he was back the next week.

Regardless, dude has suited up for every game the past two years.

ETA: As a side note, Keenan Allen is one of two players left on my dynasty team from the start up in 2016. He and DeAndre Hopkins are the sole survivors.

 

[Soda]

Not since like four years ago. He's been pretty healthy otherwise aside from costing me a playoff game last year, but that was just a single game injury. As far as I can recall he was back the next week.

Regardless, dude has suited up for every game the past two years.

ETA: As a side note, Keenan Allen is one of two players left on my dynasty team from the start up in 2016. He and DeAndre Hopkins are the sole survivors.

Interestingly enough, Allen has similar numbers to a certain often-maligned Browns receiver. He didn't get as many free hot-fudge sundaes as Allen for topping the 1K mark in yards, however.

 

[Jack Brickman]

Interestingly enough, Allen has similar numbers to a certain often-maligned Browns receiver. He didn't get as many free hot-fudge sundaes as Allen for topping the 1K mark in yards, however.

Assuming you're talking about Landry, the main difference is that Allen is a lot more efficient with his targets. Of course, this doesn't matter all that much in fantasy, as volume is really the only thing that's truly important for a WR (for example, a mediocre WR getting 150 targets is still going to produce like a star).

Comparing them in 2017, Allen was #22 in yards per target compared to #88 for Landry. Allen was #3 in yards per pass route. Landry was #41. They were #2 and #3 in yards after the catch, so it's not as if Landry was doing anything extra after he got the ball either. To put it simply, a pass to Keenan Allen is just significantly more valuable than a pass to Jarvis Landry statistically. And in fantasy terms, Allen was #4 in fantasy points per route with Landry coming in at #16. So even in fantasy, Allen was the more valuable receiver on a per route/target basis. And Landry only caught ten more passes than Allen that year too, so even his massive volume couldn't create separation from the clearly better WR.

 

[Soda]

Assuming you're talking about Landry, the main difference is that Allen is a lot more efficient with his targets. Of course, this doesn't matter all that much in fantasy, as volume is really the only thing that's truly important for a WR (for example, a mediocre WR getting 150 targets is still going to produce like a star).

Comparing them in 2017, Allen was #22 in yards per target compared to #88 for Landry. Allen was #3 in yards per pass route. Landry was #41. They were #2 and #3 in yards after the catch, so it's not as if Landry was doing anything extra after he got the ball either. To put it simply, a pass to Keenan Allen is just significantly more valuable than a pass to Jarvis Landry statistically. And in fantasy terms, Allen was #4 in fantasy points per route with Landry coming in at #16. So even in fantasy, Allen was the more valuable receiver on a per route/target basis. And Landry only caught ten more passes than Allen that year too, so even his massive volume couldn't create separation from the clearly better WR.

Note: I went with 2017 rather than last year because Landry had a down year last season, whereas Allen was his usual consistently good self.

I don't even disagree with your premise; Allen has been great. Just find it interesting how they're similar, IMO. Without doing a deep dive, I also get the feeling that clearly being Rivers' #1 WR target is going to lead to more efficient routes (i.e. Rivers, naturally a QB, being well versed in throwing receivers open than a college WR). I'm almost interested enough in it to research how different QBs or length of a tenure with a QB affects efficiency numbers for a pass-catcher.

 

[Randolphkeys]

Not since like four years ago. He's been pretty healthy otherwise aside from costing me a playoff game last year, but that was just a single game injury. As far as I can recall he was back the next week.

Regardless, dude has suited up for every game the past two years.

ETA: As a side note, Keenan Allen is one of two players left on my dynasty team from the start up in 2016. He and DeAndre Hopkins are the sole survivors.

I've avoided drafting him the past two years because of all the injuries before. Nice to see he has rebounded, but the trust level isn't there for me after getting burned before.

Speaking of injuries, one drawback of having a 14 team league is that I end up hoping for certain players to get hurt so my guy gets his shot at more touches. At the purely human level, I hate how much I want Devonta Freeman to get another concussion in the next few weeks.

 

[Jack Brickman]

I've avoided drafting him the past two years because of all the injuries before. Nice to see he has rebounded, but the trust level isn't there for me after getting burned before.

I think one of the things you really need to be able to do in fantasy is move on from preconceptions about certain players just because they burned you once in the past. It's football. Guys are going to get hurt sometimes.

Allen had two totally unrelated injuries. One was, if I recall correctly, a lacerated kidney that cost him the second half of the 2015 season. Then he tore his ACL in week one of 2016. I don't think that makes him injury prone. The first injury was a freak thing and the second is one in which guys tend to have a full recovery, as Allen has demonstrated since by being pretty much completely healthy in the two years since.

Speaking of injuries, one drawback of having a 14 team league is that I end up hoping for certain players to get hurt so my guy gets his shot at more touches. At the purely human level, I hate how much I want Devonta Freeman to get another concussion in the next few weeks.

That's how dynasty is all the time. I've got like eight guys who would benefit immensely from injuries to key players.

 

[Randolphkeys]

I think one of the things you really need to be able to do in fantasy is move on from preconceptions about certain players just because they burned you once in the past. It's football. Guys are going to get hurt sometimes.

I don't think missing 23 of the past 64 possible games is the exact same thing as "burned once in the past". His injury history is what kept him out of the elite group of #1 receivers. Having confidence that it won't happen again is a gamble, but past the first 20 picks, everyone carries risk.

 

[Jack Brickman]

I don't think missing 23 of the past 64 possible games is the exact same thing as "burned once in the past". His injury history is what kept him out of the elite group of #1 receivers. Having confidence that it won't happen again is a gamble, but past the first 20 picks, everyone carries risk.

I mean, literally any player you draft could tear an ACL in practice tomorrow and be out for the season. That's fantasy football. Every player carries risk. Sure, some carry a bit more than others, but at this point I don't consider Allen to be one of them. And I don't think he's with the elite group of receivers more because he's never performed like one. He's a low-end WR1, high-end WR2 guy. A guy who averages less than 15PPG (.5 PPR), not a stud like Hopkins or Julio that can get up in the 17-20 PPG range every year.

All I know is that I'm not taking Allen until at least the third round and it has absolutely nothing to do with me being concerned about his injury risk. It's just the reality of his expected production.

 

[FiveThous]

I think one of the things you really need to be able to do in fantasy is move on from preconceptions about certain players just because they burned you once in the past. It's football. Guys are going to get hurt sometimes.

Allen had two totally unrelated injuries. One was, if I recall correctly, a lacerated kidney that cost him the second half of the 2015 season. Then he tore his ACL in week one of 2016. I don't think that makes him injury prone. The first injury was a freak thing and the second is one in which guys tend to have a full recovery, as Allen has demonstrated since by being pretty much completely healthy in the two years since.



That's how dynasty is all the time. I've got like eight guys who would benefit immensely from injuries to key players.

My shorts ripped when Duke got traded.