I'm a Raptors fan who's hated the Jonas pick from day 1, and he's looked mighty scrubby the last few games. The Jonas phenomenon is 90% hype 10% substance. I've heard him get called a great athlete for a C the last 2 years. No, like most NBA players he has athleticism greater than regular people, but his in game athleticism kind of blows. He has no lift and is slow. He basically has a Mozgov, Koufos, Stiemsma, Vucevic, Zeller type of body. I've heard he has elite fundamentals. Except he has no post moves, rushs up a lot of shots and always looks mechanical and unnatural offensively. I've heard he's a guarantee to be an elite rebounder, but when I watched him in Europe I saw a guy who was too weak to box out properly and very rarely grabbed rebounds out of his area, while having no vertical lift. I've heard he's an elite pick and roll prospect, except only slips instead of setting hard screens and he's not fast or explosive enough to roll to the rim before defenses can react. I've heard he's on his way to being a Noah/Chandler like defensive anchor, except he has usually looked lost defensively in the hardest Euro, Olympics and NBA games and has very weak "vision" or awareness of where he is in relation to the other players on the court, which is key for being a defensive anchor. In reality Jonas is a tall guy with good hands, who has weak athleticism and bball IQ. In the NBA that pretty much just makes you a guy. This pick will be a disaster, mark my words. I'm not saying this because of the last 2 games, every game I watched in Lithuania or the Olympics foreshadowed this and now that I've seen him in the NBA looking at scrubby as ever, I'm convinced this will be a disaster.