SteelSmack
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Clearly Grant should have taken Vesely and Thomas Robinson instead.Jesus Christ.
Clearly Grant should have taken Vesely and Thomas Robinson instead.Jesus Christ.
The reasoning seems poor though. You pass on legit 7 footer because you didn't want to wait a year? We wanted to lose anyway and were planning to for about 3 years: seems strange to me at least
That wasn't really the reasoning though. The reasoning was that Jonas' agent was totally unwilling to give the Cavs any commitment that he would come over to play at all. You either cross your fingers and hope you're calling a bluff or you move on to the next guy on your list. Neither is an ideal option, so the Cavs went with the next guy who would join up with Kyrie immediately.
In retrospect it was probably a mistake, but at the same time it's hard to fault the Cavs for not picking a guy who may not have wanted to play here and could have simply stayed overseas.
They took a similar gamble with Karasev (who many thought might have been using being drafted as leverage for a bigger payday overseas), but the risk of taking a guy like that with the 19th pick is significantly less than the risk of doing it with the fourth pick.
It must've been all set up by his agent independently. I followed JV from his teenage years and in every Lithuanian interview he gave he was always raving how playing in NBA is his dream and he wants to accomplish it. Really hard to imagine him turning his dream down just because it's the Cavs.
That wasn't really the reasoning though. The reasoning was that Jonas' agent was totally unwilling to give the Cavs any commitment that he would come over to play at all. You either cross your fingers and hope you're calling a bluff or you move on to the next guy on your list. Neither is an ideal option, so the Cavs went with the next guy who would join up with Kyrie immediately.
In retrospect it was probably a mistake, but at the same time it's hard to fault the Cavs for not picking a guy who may not have wanted to play here and could have simply stayed overseas.
They took a similar gamble with Karasev (who many thought might have been using being drafted as leverage for a bigger payday overseas), but the risk of taking a guy like that with the 19th pick is significantly less than the risk of doing it with the fourth pick.
The reasoning seems poor though. You pass on legit 7 footer because you didn't want to wait a year? We wanted to lose anyway and were planning to for about 3 years: seems strange to me at least
As much as we as fans hate to admit it plays a role, and as much as it shouldn't play a role, the backlash from the public if the Cavs took a player in the draft who didn't come over LESS THAN A YEAR after their best player (and hometown kid) publicly kicked the franchise in the balls would be enormous.
In a perfectly rational world, public perception shouldn't play a role in these decisions, but we don't live in a perfectly rational world.
So much excuses are being made for this guy. TT, Dion, AB...he's a walking fuckup of high draft picks. The excuses make him out to be some kind of genius and someone who can do no wrong and was just a victim of circumstances smfdh.
That wasn't really the reasoning though. The reasoning was that Jonas' agent was totally unwilling to give the Cavs any commitment that he would come over to play at all. You either cross your fingers and hope you're calling a bluff or you move on to the next guy on your list. Neither is an ideal option, so the Cavs went with the next guy who would join up with Kyrie immediately.
So much excuses are being made for this guy. TT, Dion, AB...he's a walking fuckup of high draft picks. The excuses make him out to be some kind of genius and someone who can do no wrong and was just a victim of circumstances smfdh.