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Key points of the deal won by the owners.

• A 19-year-old age limit would be implemented. Players who are not 19 by draft night would be ineligible to declare. Under current rules, American players are eligible for the draft the year their high school class graduates. Foreign players must be 18 by draft night. The new proposed age limit would bar most, but not all (Amare Stoudemire was already 19 when he was drafted), high school players from entering the draft.

• Contract lengths would be reduced by one year. Currently, players can sign a fully guaranteed contract for a maximum of seven years if they re-sign with their current team. Players signing with a new team in free agency can sign a six-year deal. Under the new proposal, maxiumum contract lengths would shorten to five years for players signing with new teams and six years for players re-signing with their current team.

• Raises in contracts would be reduced. Under the current CBA, players are allowed maximum raises of 12.5 percent per year if they re-sign with their current team and 10 percent if they sign with a different team in free agency. Under the new proposal, raises would be reduced to 10 percent if a player re-signs with his current team and 8 percent if they sign with a different team in free agency.

• Teams would pick up an extra option year on rookie contracts. Currently, first-round picks are tied into a league salary scale. When a first-round pick signs a contract, the first three years are guaranteed, with a team option for the fourth year. Players are paid a set amount based on where they were selected in the draft. Under the new proposed rules, first-round picks would get the first two years of their contract guaranteed. The third and fourth years of the contract would be team options.


Key points of the deal won by the players

• Total player salaries would be guaranteed. The proposed agreement guarantees that players receive a minimum of 57 percent of basketball-related income (BRI) in the form of salaries each year.

• The salary cap would increase. The current CBA bases the salary cap on BRI. The cap is set at 48 percent of BRI; last year, that came to $43.87 million. According to sources, the owners would agree to increase that percentage to 51 percent, in effect raising the salary cap. Sources say the cap would, in that case, rise to between $47 million and $50 million next season.

• Escrow would be reduced and distribution of escrow moneys modified. Currently, players must pay 10 percent of their salaries into an escrow account each season. If, at season's end, the total amount of player salaries exceeds 57 percent of the league's total basketball-related income, that money goes to the owners whose teams stay below the luxury-tax threshold (and a few that fall within a certain "cliff threshold"). If it doesn't exceed 57 percent, the players get their money back. Under the proposed agreement, that number would be slowly fazed down to 8 percent by the end of the agreement.

There is potentially another significant development in this area. Under current rules, the NBA has sole discretion over the use of the escrow money. Currently, it redistributes the cash (and luxury tax revenues) to teams that are under the luxury tax threshold. In essence, Clippers owner Donald Sterling gets a bonus for being cheap. Under the new proposed agreement, distribution rules would be changed so that luxury tax revenues would now be distributed equally among all 30 teams.

• No super luxury tax. Owners had been pushing for a "super tax" for teams who exceed the salary cap by more than a certain percentage. They would be penalized $2 for every dollar they were over the tax threshold. However, the owners dropped their demand for a super tax under the newest proposal.

Thoughts?
 
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Just what we wanted! It really is spilling out to be good for the cavs this off season! I love it!

I don't understand why they would even waste their time on the age limit. 20 or 21, why only 19? Seems like a waste of writing space on the cba to me.
 
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Good news that a deal is nearly set and there is little chance of a lockout. I was behind a 20 year age limit, but 19 is a step at least. The more kids in college the better. The cap rising is great for our free agency quest, although the dropping of years on deal and contract rises makes it tougher to get a player from his current team.

Good news in general, but we do need to pull our finger out and get a GM.
 
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I'd rather they set the age llimit at 20 but I guess the league decided that it was the best compromise. The one thing I still hope to see one day is the league would set up rules that would also penalize teams for being cheap like Donald Sterling. I understand penalties for spending too much but allowing guys like Sterling to field below par teams is bad for the league as well.

As for the impact of the CBA on our team, I'm really glad that we will have labor peace in the NBA. This is one of the biggest off-seasons for us, one with the potential to correct a lot of paast mistakes and if we had a lock out, we would have been devastated. Second, I'm kinda glad as well that the July 1 date has been pushed back as it gives us time to sign a GM and get the job done right.

Edwin
 
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The possible delay in the agreement will be great news. Obviously the more time we have to get our front office in order the better. Although the wait will be frustrating to us fans wanting to see some roster action.
 
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Since the age is now 19, I wonder if a HS stud will still bypass college and sit on his arse for a year waiting for his payday? Would something like that even affect his draft position? Would he go to a small local college instead of a big name just to play for a year? Who knows?
 
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The Cavs have 25 million in guarenteed contracts this year I think. So that leaves cap room between 22-25 million. If that figure is on the high end, then it appears that there is room to sign Z and the coveted shooting guard, but there is not going to be a whole lot for anything else. Alternatively, theres room to sign 4 guys to rather large contracts of about 5-6 million starting...

Most of the consessions the players made wont actually effect any of the current players, so I can see how the bargain appears pretty lopsided but the players would still go for it. I like the 19 year old age limit, it forces high schoolers to at least go to college, but not stay longer than 1 year. I had issues with the age limit in the first place. If you can get drafted by the military, you should be able to get drafted by the NBA. Though I can see it now, players will decide to stay an extra year in high school haha. I dont get why foreign players have a different limit, but I don't think it will have that much effect. The large majority of the foreign kids get drafted then spend more time in Europe anyhow.
 
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ChicagoCavFan said:
Since the age is now 19, I wonder if a HS stud will still bypass college and sit on his arse for a year waiting for his payday? Would something like that even affect his draft position? Would he go to a small local college instead of a big name just to play for a year? Who knows?

I doubt it dude. HS Ballers usually get catered by college scouts right before graduation. He might as well go to college for free for one whole year to get the experience then go ahead onto the draft.
 
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either that or maybe we will start getting kids who try to fail in school so they can wait until they are 19 and still in high school and then still go.
 
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I think most schools require a certain GPA to play sports.
 
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Thats true but you and I know if you are a star athlete in high school, you get star treatment.
 
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Infante said:
I think most schools require a certain GPA to play sports.

That being a 2.0

You seriously have to be a fucking moron not to be able to pull a 2.0
 
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The Cavs have 25 million in guarenteed contracts this year I think. So that leaves cap room between 22-25 million. If that figure is on the high end, then it appears that there is room to sign Z and the coveted shooting guard, but there is not going to be a whole lot for anything else. Alternatively, theres room to sign 4 guys to rather large contracts of about 5-6 million starting...

I think the committed money is less than that and if the cap is closer to 50 million we will be closer to 27 million in cap space. Also I have read that the Cavs are interested in Bonzi Wells, not as a player but because he has a team option contract. If they traded some swingmen for him, they could opt out of the contract and add cap room.

Also the new CBA does not punish the cap space overage as much, which will benefit owners who are willing to buy their way in, which appears to be the Dan Gilbert way. All in all this is a good thing for the Cavs, assuming they can make good personell decisions and not overspend for underperformers.
 
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CBBI said:
That being a 2.0

You seriously have to be a fucking moron not to be able to pull a 2.0


out here in Painesville it's 1.5 and we still got half of our teams not getting a 1.5
 
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nothing about the length of time a team has to match a offer on RFA? i was hoping that poinjt would go through so Phx had less time to tinker with their cap situation and match on JJ.

i think a big thing they have to look at in the future is make the D-league a true minor league system. even if the age limit is set on 19 some of those kids could use a year of actual play in the D-league rather then sit the bench for an entire NBA season. of coarse a guy like Lebron or Amare would be playing right away but it could have done wonders for someone like Darko or even Diop.
 

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