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http://sports.espn.go.com/espn/page2/story?page=simmons/081126&sportCat=nba


2. Why don't more people realize that the Cavs, already really good, will be even better three months from now?



Only 5-to-1 odds to win the title? Really? Even in this crummy economy, with ticket sales about to drop through the basement, the Cavs can't blow their LeBron Window for one reason: If they win a title, he might stay and save professional basketball in Cleveland. Money is no object. They don't care. And given that they have $20 million worth of expiring contracts (Wally Z. plus Eric Snow) as well as two favorable contracts (Andy Varejao and Sasha Pavlovic), that means the following guys are in play for them: Mike Miller and Michael Redd (the two biggies), along with Josh Howard, Shawn Marion, Gerald Wallace, Jason Richardson, Rasheed Wallace, Brad Miller, Raja Bell, Leandro Barbosa and Antawn Jamison.



For instance, let's say they traded Wally, J.J. Hickson and $3 million to Minnesota for Mike Miller, and $10 million worth of Brian Cardinal and Mark Madsen in 2010 ... then they dealt Pavlovic, Snow and a 2009 No. 1 pick to Washington for Jamison and Darius Songaila's mildly reprehensible contract. Two reasonable trades, right? Cleveland gets two blue-chippers; Minnesota and Washington save money, gain cap space and position themselves for 2009 (fan-tanking) and 2010 (the free-agent bonanza). Wouldn't the Cavs become the favorites if they landed Jamison AND Miller without giving up anyone in their top eight? I'd be more scared as a Celtics fan if Mike Brown wasn't in charge. The point is -- they will definitely add one more elite guy and possibly two. Which means that our top three (Boston, Cleveland, Los Angeles) could end up being more loaded than any top three since 1993 (Chicago, New York, Phoenix). This is a good thing.


(The highlight of the second trade for me: I called my buddy House, a diehard Wiz fan, and opened the conversation with, "Would you trade Jamison and Songaila for ...?" Before I could say the rest, he just started screaming, "YES! YES! YES! ABSOLUTELY! GIVE ME THE CAP SPACE!!! YES!!!!" Ladies and gentlemen, your 2009 Washington Wizards! OK, let's give the readers a couple of questions.)
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Now trading jj is far from our minds and jamison has such a huge contract with a lot of years left but having a team of mo, mike miller, bron, jamison, z and off the bench you have boobie, delonte, av, ben you cant go wrong with that. You take the risk of age and with jamison a long contract but you cant deny he is a 20 10 guy and the wiz arent going anywhere anytime soon. This would give us such a scary starting lineup it would be absolutely amazing.
 
Silky Smooth said:
http://sports.espn.go.com/espn/page2/story?page=simmons/081126&sportCat=nba





Now trading jj is far from our minds and jamison has such a huge contract with a lot of years left but having a team of mo, mike miller, bron, jamison, z and off the bench you have boobie, delonte, av, ben you cant go wrong with that. You take the risk of age and with jamison a long contract but you cant deny he is a 20 10 guy and the wiz arent going anywhere anytime soon. This would give us such a scary starting lineup it would be absolutely amazing.
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If trading Hickson means the Cavs get an impact/ all-star player you do it, you think the Celtics regret trading Jefferson who is 10 times the player JJ is for KG?


I wouldnt want Jamison though, he's a 20-10 guy yes, but he's essentially a SF that plays PF.
 
No way would i touch jamison. His contract is atrocious and he's getting up there in age.
 
I would not trade JJ to get Mike Miller, and Jamsion is so iffy for me because the guy is 32 with 4 yrs left on his contract.

JJ has a very bright future, if you are giving me back a superstar or young allstar then i do it. I would package him for Melo or somebody like that. I guess if you can get Jamison for a package like Pavs/Snow you do it but the Wizards ain't gonna do that shit.
 
I would only consider JJ for Duncan. :chuckles:
 
Don't touch JJ for anyone over 30 imo. And for any jackass that wants to call me on the ANYONE portion...I mean anyone that a team would probably be willing to offer us in exchange for a rookie who has played mostly garbage minutes so far.
 
The only players worth anything on the Wiz are Caron and JaVale, outside of them I wouldnt want anyone on that horrible roster.
 
Not even Deshawn Stevenson?
 
Can we trade Eric Snow? I have asked this question a million times and nobody knows the answer.
 
abuC said:
If trading Hickson means the Cavs get an impact/ all-star player you do it, you think the Celtics regret trading Jefferson who is 10 times the player JJ is for KG?


I wouldnt want Jamison though, he's a 20-10 guy yes, but he's essentially a SF that plays PF.
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The celtics were never a contender when they had Jefferson which is why they made the trade to get KG. The cavs are a contender without making a trade for another superstar. Lebron is young and JJ's development in the next year will be crucial factor that may keep LBJ here in Cleveland. I don't want to trade a player with the amount of potential JJ has for an all-star like Jamison on the downslope of his career with a long inflated contract. Right now we stand at 12-3 with damn near everyone on our roster contributing so therefore I'm hesitant on trading a player who could play such a crucial role in our future success. The way we're playing I'd only look to move Wally, AV (maybe. it depends on how much Ferry thinks Fegan will demand to re-sign him), Pavs, and maybe Jackson.
 
glockcoma said:
The celtics were never a contender when they had Jefferson which is why they made the trade to get KG. The cavs are a contender without making a trade for another superstar. Lebron is young and JJ's development in the next year will be crucial factor that may keep LBJ here in Cleveland. I don't want to trade a player with the amount of potential JJ has for an all-star like Jamison on the downslope of his career with a long inflated contract. Right now we stand at 12-3 with damn near everyone on our roster contributing so therefore I'm hesitant on trading a player who could play such a crucial role in our future success. The way we're playing I'd only look to move Wally, AV (maybe. it depends on how much Ferry thinks Fegan will demand to re-sign him), Pavs, and maybe Jackson.
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Glockcoma, I agree with you 100%.

I am very hesitant about trading JJ. The kid has such a tremendous upside, not too mention the fact hes good natured with no character flaws, and his contract is hardly anything the next five years. He's a gem, and I have a funny feeling Darnell may be a gem for the late second round as well. Kudos to Danny Ferry for getting the job done draft night!
 
CLEsportsguy said:
Glockcoma, I agree with you 100%.

I am very hesitant about trading JJ. The kid has such a tremendous upside, not too mention the fact hes good natured with no character flaws, and his contract is hardly anything the next five years. He's a gem, and I have a funny feeling Darnell may be a gem for the late second round as well. Kudos to Danny Ferry for getting the job done draft night!
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anyone realize that the sonics/thinder actuall good have been a good team. they had ray allen and rashard lewis. they sign an trade lewis then trade allen. they then draft durant

what if they dont make those trades. you got allen at sg durant at sf and lewis at pf. thats a pretty good core. im not saying they would be a playoff team but they would at least be competitive
 
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